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Old 02-25-2004, 02:53 PM
ZAC ZAC is offline
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Default Cheap Lesson in FPS?

Playing in a 2-4 at Party and it seemed that the deck hit me flush between the eye. I was drawing sets, my TPTK stood up, etc. and I was up about 30BB in 45 minutes when everyone folded to me, holding AA in SB.

I decided to call and BB knuckled. The flop was 4 2 6 rainbow and I checked, planning to check-raise. BB cooperated and I raised. He called.

Turn was a 7, I bet and he called. River was a harmless-looking 3. I bet. He just called and turned over 9 5o.

I wouldn't have done this in a higher limit game but it sure was a memorable lesson.

Anybody tried something similar in nature?
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Old 02-27-2004, 12:50 AM
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Default Re: Cheap Lesson in FPS?

A post of mine from last week.

FPS: Medical Fact Sheet

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Old 02-27-2004, 12:50 AM
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Default Re: Cheap Lesson in FPS?

The question is not whether you lost money by what you call FPS. It is whether playing AA that way will yield more profits over the long term than raising. I think the answer is obvious: yes.
Of course, he plays so badly that he might have called if you had raised, but virtually everyone would fold that hand before the flop, giving you a total profit of one small bet on AA.
Did you really wait all those hours to win one small bet with them?
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Old 02-27-2004, 01:56 PM
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Anybody tried something similar in nature?

Has anyone not slowplayed AA when they weren't getting much action? this isn't a fancy play, it's routine; and the fact that you lost the hand doesn't make it wrong. Then again if you're playing 2/4 at Party I might see you sometime if I'm slumming it a bit so yes, raise every time you have AA. Incidently if you're convinced 95 would've folded had you raised there then you haven't played much 2/4 at party and if you think the 3 putting a 1 card straight on the board is harmless looking, what exactly where you afraid of seeing on the river?
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Old 02-27-2004, 02:31 PM
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Default Re: Cheap Lesson in FPS?

the thing about open raising from the SB is no one puts you on AA. so raise, they might reraise [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. just because you lost doesn't make what you did a bad play though.
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Old 02-27-2004, 02:37 PM
Nate tha' Great Nate tha' Great is offline
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Default Re: Cheap Lesson in FPS?

You played it fine, though I'd prefer to wait until the turn to check-raise. Your hand is not very vulnerable, and there's a reasonable chance that he's going to fold the minute you play back at him because some BB's will just keep betting routinely if their opponent hasn't shown any strength.

Preflop, I might raise if I'd always been raising in that spot, but if you've sometimes been limping/completing then limping/completing is okay. Note that this play should also help you to limp/complete with marginally playable hands in future orbits when you'd like to see the flop cheaply.
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Old 03-04-2004, 09:14 PM
IlliniRyRy IlliniRyRy is offline
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Default Re: Cheap Lesson in FPS?

No, I play 3-6 and my raises never get any respect, it's awesome. One of my favorite plays is the setup you described... it's folded around (amazingly), and I'm the SB with AA, and I know the BB is either a loose maniac or calling station, so I raise and he calls. Bet the flop, call, then I check the turn and he bets it about 99.999999% of the time, then I raise and he calls it all. The SCREW play never fails.
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