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Old 02-15-2004, 12:08 PM
JAque JAque is offline
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Default The break even player and rake rebates--making good money??

Hello:

With some people getting rake rebates every month, can the break even player still make a ton of money by playing multiple tables.
A full time player playing 3 tables at 10/20 may get $1500/$2000 rake rebates from a good affiliate. On 160 hours a month is about $12 an hour. Increase to 4 or 6 tables and a break even player has a good hourly rate (>$20??). Now, let's say your are a marginal winner (0.5 BB/h). $13 + $10 (.5*$20) and you are making a good living.

Do I miss something here or these rakebacks are must have for any serious player?

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JAque
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Old 02-15-2004, 12:42 PM
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Default Re: The break even player and rake rebates--making good money??

if you are break even at 10/20 and you play that many hours, you're a retard [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Move down to 5/10 and play the same amount of hours, and MAKE money playing AND get a rake rebate.

A rake rebate is a must for anyone who plays the amount of hours your talking about, regardless of the skill level.
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Old 02-15-2004, 02:42 PM
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Default Re: The break even player and rake rebates--making good money??

Hi Alobar:

I understand you point, however, the 10/20 was an example. Many times break even players do not drop levels for many reasons. One of them may be that they were losing players at the lower limits. It is possible that some people cannot beat the lower limits because they can't adjust to folding big hands when you don't hit the flop.

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Old 02-15-2004, 02:47 PM
Paul Talbot Paul Talbot is offline
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Default Re: The break even player and rake rebates--making good money??

Okay, dumb question. How does one get a rebae on their rake?

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Old 02-15-2004, 02:54 PM
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Default Re: The break even player and rake rebates--making good money??

>>>>One of them may be that they were losing players at the lower limits. It is possible that some people cannot beat the lower limits because they can't adjust to folding big hands when you don't hit the flop.>>>>>

That's total BS. If you can't win at low limits you can't win at higher limits.

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Old 02-15-2004, 03:12 PM
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Default Re: The break even player and rake rebates--making good money??

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One of them may be that they were losing players at the lower limits. It is possible that some people cannot beat the lower limits because they can't adjust to folding big hands when you don't hit the flop.


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I disagree with this. I think its a common misconception among low limit players, especially losing players, that if they moved up in limits they would do better because they wouldnt get sucked out on so much. A break even 10/20 player would slaughter a low limit game. And a .5/1 low limit player isnt going to see any difference in suck outs till they moved up to at least 5/10 and there they are going to lose to the players who have more ability.

So you're still better dropping limits and making money, AND getting a rake rebate.

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Old 02-15-2004, 03:15 PM
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Okay, dumb question. How does one get a rebae on their rake?

Thanks,

Paul

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You sign up under an affiliate at a site like party or empire (you cant have an account there already) and the affialite gets somewhere in the range of 20% of your generated rake from the casino for signing you up. Then the affiliate gives you a share of that, usually 60/40. So basically if you sign up under an honorable affiliate your going to get 15% of your generated rake back each month. If you play alot of hands, that can add up to several hundred dollars a month very easily
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Old 02-15-2004, 03:39 PM
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Old 02-15-2004, 03:50 PM
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Default Re: The break even player and rake rebates--making good money??

i agree with this sentiment. since the rake is almost as high at 5/10 as 10/20, you are much better off dropping in limit so you can win at a decent clip.

but yes, the rake rebates definitely help turn things around whether you're a winning or break even player.
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Old 02-15-2004, 04:22 PM
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Default Re: The break even player and rake rebates--making good money??

Getting rake back is extremely important. I have several 30+ hours a week players that I send about 1k back each month to. Serious players absolutely need this, especially if they are playing more than one table at once.

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