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Old 11-21-2003, 12:28 PM
Wyrm2 Wyrm2 is offline
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Default flopped a low flush... now what?

Playing Party .50/1 and was in BB with 10 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4 limpers see the flop, I check.

Flop comes 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] I check, figuring someone will bet this and I can checkraise (mistake 1?) All check to the button, who bets, I check-raise, all fold except the button who 3-bets. I cap and he calls.

Turn comes Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] I check (Mistake #2?). Button checks (?!?)

River is A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] I bet, button folds.

I obviously read the button for a high club, which just as clearly he didn't have.

I checkraised the flop to make the singleton clubs pay, but should I have taken the chance that it would be checked around?

With regards to the turn, I don't think checking was the right thing to do, especially since I have no idea what to do if he bets [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Old 11-21-2003, 12:38 PM
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Default Re: flopped a low flush... now what?

My general plan in hands like this is to ram and jam it. Very often a flop like this will be raised by someone holding a big club or pair. I bet with the intention of having someone raise it so I can 3 bet. You may think you may as well announce to the table that you have a small flush when you do this, but often people will not give you credit for your hand.

If a fourth of the suit falls, you usually have to fold to any resistance, but at least to charged the hell out of them when you were in the lead.
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Old 11-21-2003, 12:39 PM
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Default Re: flopped a low flush... now what?

Looks like the strategy turned out ok here, but I will usually bet out with a flopped crap flush to, as you say, make one card flush draws pay. Bad board though, but apparently you were good. I probably would have played turn and river the same way.

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Old 11-21-2003, 01:22 PM
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Default Re: flopped a low flush... now what?

You check on the turn is fine, but your bet on the river is poor, since most hands he could call (or raise ) with, would have you beat. Otherwise, he'll fold. On the other hand, he might try a bluff on the river if you check.
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Old 11-21-2003, 02:54 PM
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Default Re: flopped a low flush... now what?

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You check on the turn is fine, but your bet on the river is poor, since most hands he could call (or raise ) with, would have you beat.

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I disagree. A big club would have bet when checked to on the turn and with the A and Q on the board the T-high flush isn't that bad. Also a lot of people will call you here without the flush after you check the turn hoping to chop.
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Old 11-24-2003, 12:57 AM
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Default Re: flopped a low flush... now what?

There is little reason for his opponent to bet a king or jack of clubs on the turn. So let's put it this way. If a "good" player calls a bet on the river, our hero loses more times than he wins, which makes betting poor.
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Old 11-24-2003, 01:37 AM
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Default Re: flopped a low flush... now what?

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There is little reason for his opponent to bet a king or jack of clubs on the turn. So let's put it this way. If a "good" player calls a bet on the river, our hero loses more times than he wins, which makes betting poor.

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Why would a K or J, not bet the turn if checked to?
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Old 11-24-2003, 09:05 AM
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Default Re: flopped a low flush... now what?

I'd bet right out on this flop. Not many players would ever believe you flopped a flush and you'll trap multiple players for 1 bet on the flop. I'd raise the flop to any resistence also.

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Old 11-24-2003, 09:37 AM
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There is little reason for his opponent to bet a king or jack of clubs on the turn. So let's put it this way. If a "good" player calls a bet on the river, our hero loses more times than he wins, which makes betting poor.

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Why would a K or J, not bet the turn if checked to?

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Unless your opponent has two-pair, a set or a baby straight-flush draw, a K is both the best hand and cannot be overtaken on the river so there is no (or very little) risk in it giving a free card (and conversely little chance that your opponent will call with the hope of redrawing). Betting the turn announces the strength of the hand and may cause a weaker hand to fold. Checking gives the opportunity to induce a bet and/or call on the river.
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Old 11-24-2003, 10:01 AM
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Betting the turn announces the strength of the hand and may cause a weaker hand to fold. Checking gives the opportunity to induce a bet and/or call on the river.

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Checking the nuts to induce a bluff is poor poker. I see that crap all the time and always laugh at the player doing it.
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