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Old 11-20-2003, 03:23 AM
krazyace5 krazyace5 is offline
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Default Part Poker players

.50/1.00 tables,
Whats with these players? I got a pair of aces raise before flop, on flop I catch another ace so I keep betting every chance, get beat by someone that stayed in with a 3 and 6 or something like that and catches a straight.

How do you play against people that don't fold for anything?

This was happening quite a bit where people with nothing would just keep calling or even making bets when they had nothing then they sometimes catch the river and make a long shot hand.

Should I play the $1/$2 tables or do they play the same way?

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Old 11-20-2003, 03:41 AM
Alobar Alobar is offline
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2/4 isnt "quite" as bad, but im saying its only like 5% better than .5/1.....moving up isnt going to help you any. If you cant beat .5/1 your not going to beat 2/4. Its frustrating to get AA cracked by crap hands like 63o. I was looking at my poker tracker stats earlier and was shocked that I win with AA 85% of the time, cuz it sure doesnt feel that way. Your going to remember the bad beats, over the times that you bet all the way to the river and some guy calls you down the whole way and loses in the showdown.

You have to adjust your play to the lower limits and looser players. Read the forums, study some poker books geared towards lower limits (everyone here from what I've read reccomends "Winning low limit hold'em", I havent read it, but if it has the 2+2 approval its a good book) and you should be able to beat .5/1 and even 2/4
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Old 11-20-2003, 09:06 AM
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Default Re: Part Poker players

Krazy,

Welcome to the forum! As you will learn after you are here for a while, questions like yours are asked all of the time.
And the general answer is...

"Be happy to be playing with of these calling station fish."

Whereas your pocket aces will get cracked more often, you will still win money in the long run by playing them hard and fast, as the pots you do win should gather a net gain over the AA pots that you lose. I know it's frustrating to lose with a big hand like AA, but you need to get past the entitlement that some new players have with regards to their expectations with big pocket pairs. Remenber also that the goal in poker is not to win pots, but to win money

Finally, it is true that playing with seven idiots who see the flop and four who will call you all the way to the river will increase your bankroll variance, but in the long run you will come out ahead if you play smart poker.

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Old 11-20-2003, 11:49 AM
ResidentParanoid ResidentParanoid is offline
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Default Re: Part Poker players

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How do you play against people that don't fold for anything?


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Wait until you have it or have odds to draw to it. Then bet. If you don't have it or odds to draw to it, then fold. When you are convinced that they have it, fold. 0.5/1 is as easy as poker gets.
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Old 11-20-2003, 01:07 PM
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Default Re: Part Poker players

Sit down at the next 2+2 table. Its filled with good players and is therefore much easier than most Party .5/1 tables filled with people who will call you down with nothing.
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Old 11-20-2003, 01:34 PM
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Its filled with good players and is therefore much easier than most Party .5/1 tables filled with people who will call you down with nothing.

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Do you really mean this?
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Old 11-20-2003, 01:36 PM
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You should try the $5-$10 tables. People there play more conservatively. So a player of your caliber will actually do better, playing against tight players, than against loose fishies, who are practically unbeatable.
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Old 11-20-2003, 01:39 PM
ScottTheFish ScottTheFish is offline
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"Sit down at the next 2+2 table. Its filled with good players and is therefore much easier than most Party .5/1 tables filled with people who will call you down with nothing. "

"You should try the $5-$10 tables. People their play more conservatively. So a player of your caliber will actually do better, playing against tight players, than against loose fishies, who are practically unbeatable. "

You guys trying to cost this guy a lot of money?? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]


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Old 11-20-2003, 01:44 PM
el_grande el_grande is offline
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Lower limits are not as enjoyable because of this. Over the long term, you will win money, but the suckouts will make it seem more like a grind.

However, unless you don't mind blowing hundreds of dollars, you need to put in the time at the micro limits to develop your game and your bankroll.

Anyone with money and an ego can jump into a 5/10 game. Have respect for the game of poker and learn it gradually, moving up from the lowest limits.

If you can build a bankroll at the microlimits, you will be a stronger player when you move up to 1/2, 2/4, 4/8/, 5/10 or whatever.


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Old 11-20-2003, 01:57 PM
slavic slavic is offline
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Default 5/10 hand

Party 5/10 hand.

I have AA in the MP.

UTG opens for 10, UTG+1 Cold Calls, I reraise, and then I watch as I'm called in 5 places.

As these aces were being cracked on a raggy non draw board all I could think of was how good this game is.

AA is a great starting hand, but it's also the best of the weakest good hands. They will be cracked, but if they are cracked in this fashion it's not such a bad thing.
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