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09-27-2003, 04:58 AM
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Midnight Hold\'Em
It's folded to me on the button with ATo, so I do the obvious thing, the loose aggressive and tricky player in the SB (a guy with white hair who some of you Vegasites have probably played against in the 30 and 80 games) who actually plays pretty strong postflop makes it 3 bets, the just plain loose BB folds, and I call.
The SB bets dark, and we see a ragged ten high rainbow flop. I do the obvious (?!) thing again, he 3 bets me again, and I call. He bets the turn in the dark, which turns out to be some small brick, and I call thinking that he knows I'm about to pay him off, so should I really? He bets again in the dark, and I call regretfully after the river blanks. How do you play it? 
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#2
09-27-2003, 05:31 AM
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Re: Midnight Hold\'Em
Would This guy play 22,AK or AA the same way as a trick play? Or do yuo think he was being nice and letting yuo now HE has the Big daddy hand AA and yuo should fold? Altruism at the poker table is a somewhat doubtful thing. We are playing for money and human greed is a strong thing. If yuor at my table Id try anything to bust yuo out.
Sounds like yuor beat, But id want to see it. Interisting trick he got to get yuo to payoff to river. Curiosity is also a powerful human tendencie. Next time reraise him in the dark on flop. SEE if yuo can get him to Check it down OR better yet pay yuo off all the way to river. At least it should stop him from trying cheesy tricks on yuo.
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#6
09-28-2003, 12:00 AM
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Re: Midnight Hold\'Em
Hi Coilean,
In my experience, the re-raise and subsequent dark bet on the flop indicates AK. The second dark bet, though, is problematic. Most players would not do that with AK after being raised on the flop. But I still think it's his most likely hand. I guess a small set or pocket nines would be my guess for a distant second. I'd always at least call, then call the river if he bets.
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#8
09-28-2003, 07:31 AM
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Results! The best line?
It was fairly unsurprising when the SB turned over QQ. I didn't much care for the way I played this one: I think raising the flop was a mistake, and I should have just called it down the whole way after flopping top pair. Given SB probably has a big ace or a big pair, I'm either way ahead or on a slightly submarginal draw, so it seems best to avoid scaring him off if he's pushing with the worst of it (which also happens to lose the least if I'm the one looking to pull off an upset). Once I flop top pair here, the whole hand seems fairly analagous to the HPFAP scenario where you just call down after being reraised preflop with QQ. Anyone agree, or have I been sticken by results oriented disease?
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#9
09-28-2003, 07:47 AM
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Re: Midnight Hold\'Em
Hmm, I certainly like this line better than the one I used, and I think overplaying my hand occassionally here has a lot to recommend it as well. One potential problem is that by putting in 4 bets on the flop, you are making the pot large enough that it's marginally correct to draw at a 5-outer if you get 5-bet or bet into on the turn, which kind of buggers the second part of your plan where you fold if he shows more strength. As I posted with my results though, I think the best default play is to not raise at all on the flop, and just call it down the whole way.
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#10
09-28-2003, 10:17 AM
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Re: Results! The best line?
"I think raising the flop was a mistake, and I should have just called it down the whole way after flopping top pair."
I double very strongly agree.
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