Put this dude on a hand!

B K · #1 08-11-2003, 02:39 AM

tight, aggressive Commerce 15-30

I call a MP open-raise from the BB with KJs. Head's up. We're strangers.

Flop is JJ6. I check-call the flop.

Turn's a blank (rainbow) and I check-raised - he 3-bet. I call.

River is a king – I bet out and he raised. I 3-bet. He folds.

elysium · #2 08-11-2003, 02:48 AM

hi bk
looks like middle pocket pair or QQ, maybe AA. there are lots of hands that this opponent could have played like this, but if he's reasonable, i would lean toward his holding AA or QQ. but middle pocket pair is very possible.

PocketKings · #3 08-11-2003, 03:20 AM

y guess is he had either made a small full house or pocket AA, AJs or QJs, or even TJs.

AJs and QJs was most possible hands he hold, I think.

Given so much action on turn, he would not reasonably raise you again with AA.

Thus, possible holding, in order of chance:

AJs
QJs
TJs
AA

Ulysses · #4 08-11-2003, 04:59 AM

A pocket pair 77-QQ

Ulysses · #5 08-11-2003, 05:01 AM

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Thus, possible holding, in order of chance:

AJs
QJs
TJs
AA

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I think it's highly unlikely that his opponent would fold any of those hands on the river for one last bet. Maybe AA, maybe.

Ulysses · #6 08-11-2003, 05:03 AM

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hi bk
looks like middle pocket pair or QQ, maybe AA. there are lots of hands that this opponent could have played like this, but if he's reasonable, i would lean toward his holding AA or QQ. but middle pocket pair is very possible.

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I think you're right on the money, elysium. Good post.

anatta · #7 08-11-2003, 05:53 AM

I know, I saw his post and thought "damn, he beat me to it". QQ most likely.

anatta · #8 08-11-2003, 06:01 AM

Since I am officially a poker "addict", I don't suppose I can use "The Poker gods" as my higher power? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

ML4L · #9 08-11-2003, 11:28 AM

Hey BK,

I'm going to take the road less travelled and guess AK. I recently played a hand that was very similar to this one. I open-raised from MP, got called by a BB who plays well, flop was a paired board, he check-called, turn was a blank, he check-raised, I 3-bet and he mucked. My holding? 98s (no pair). My point is that a 3-bet here is routine with any two cards against a good player who sometimes will check-raise bluff and release his hand when it is no good. Thus, I don't think that his turn play necessarily helps to define his hand. On the river, I think that he thinks that BK is the one with the pocket pair (or maybe a worse king) and that he is raising for value. But, when he is 3-bet, he knows that his hand cannot possibly be good and lays it down.

Obviously, QQ makes sense as well...

As a side note, would anyone laydown a jack to BK's 3-bet? What about a hand as good as QJ?

ML4L

B K · #10 08-11-2003, 04:57 PM

"As a side note, would anyone laydown a jack to BK's 3-bet? What about a hand as good as QJ?"

By the way my opponent reacted to the flop, I actually put him on a jack. He kind of stuttered like he wanted to slow play and then bet anyway with a funny look on his face. Being the pre-flop raiser, AJ was a strong possibility that the turn action supported... when he 3-bets I'm thinking I need a king on the river. I just can't see laying down a jack for one more bet, but I really think this guy did. I would have just called AJ/QJ.