56o vs KK and a set

Andrew Fletcher · #1 12-10-2005, 12:47 AM

We know that a lot of players overvalue their hands. But what about players who undervalue their big hands? Let's see how a LAG style can beat weak players....

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

UTG ($10.15)
UTG+1 ($4.85)
MP1 ($2.90)
MP2 ($23.25)
MP3 ($6.05)
CO ($14)
Hero ($10.75)
SB ($17.75)
BB ($0.80)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.3, 1 fold, MP3 calls $0.30, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.30, 2 folds.

Flop: ($1.05) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP1 checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets $0.75, MP1 folds, MP3 calls $0.75.

That flop bet will often win the hand outright and if it doesn't i've got outs.

Turn: ($2.55) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero checks.

When the lord givith a free card, you take the free card. His flop call tells me he has something.

River: ($2.55) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero bets $1.25, MP3 calls $1.25.

Final Pot: $5.05

The key, in my mind, to a LAG style is that it allows you to take advantage of all kinds of mistakes that a ABC TAG style does not. As I start to move up in limits, I think my learning curve will be much less steep.

wdeadwyler · #2 12-10-2005, 12:51 AM

Dude this is bad. Bet more on the river. Dont call preflop. Lags dont call preflop and check turns, they raise and bet.

scrapperdog · #3 12-10-2005, 12:56 AM

Waxie you are attempting to play LAG in full ring now? This has disaster written all over it.

Wayfare · #4 12-10-2005, 12:57 AM

Also this isn't lag. LAG won't work well in low stakes because:

1: People don't fold and....
2: They don't fold.

There is very little shania here at these stakes. People dont care about what you have, they aren't thinking that deeply.

scrapperdog · #5 12-10-2005, 01:07 AM

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Also this isn't lag. LAG won't work well in low stakes

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We all know this is not LAG. LAGS dont CC on the button, and probably most of them fold this hand (if it was suited they probably re-raise?). Good lags constantly play the player as well as position, Wax did not mention any reads on the player so .....

A good LAG can make money at any stakes in 6 max games. Full ring is harder. Most LAGS are not good.

Edit.. I am hoping a good LAG can step in here and correct any mistakes I made here.

Andrew Fletcher · #6 12-10-2005, 01:58 AM

What would be the purpose of re-raising a PF raiser at 10NL? With any hand but QQ-AA?

Andrew Fletcher · #7 12-10-2005, 02:01 AM

Since so few people raise PF in the 10NL games, I was pretty sure that .40 meant AA, KK, QQ, JJ, AK, AQ, AK, or A-x suited.

Isura · #8 12-10-2005, 02:39 AM

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Waxie you are attempting to play LAG in full ring 0.05/0.10 now? This has disaster written all over it.

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FYP.

Wayfare · #9 12-10-2005, 12:55 AM

Man did you play this fishy.

Isura · #10 12-10-2005, 12:55 AM

Fold preflop. Hands like 87o do well in position in an unraised pot, because your hand is easy to define and you know exactly where you stand. Against a preflop raiser in a big pot though, this hand is hell to play. Even if you hit 2 pair, you might not be ahead. And the preflop raiser isn't going to normally let you draw cheaply. Pot or overbet the river.