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Old 12-03-2005, 04:50 PM
GrunchCan GrunchCan is offline
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Default I did it again!

Well, I screwed up here. I hate my river call. I checked the turn to induce this action, and that's why I called. But my river play was stupid, induced by my stupid turn play.

Don't let this happen to you. Or at least if you do, try to learn something from it.

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BB ($12.65)
UTG ($5.25)
MP ($85.55)
Hero ($66.65)
SB ($55.30)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, MP calls $3.

Turn: ($10.75) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, Hero checks.

River: ($10.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $9</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $80.55</font>, Hero calls $52.65 (All-In).

Final Pot: $152.95
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Old 12-03-2005, 04:52 PM
beset7 beset7 is offline
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Default Re: I did it again!

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I hate it when I do that. Greed is a deadly sin.
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Old 12-03-2005, 04:56 PM
GrunchCan GrunchCan is offline
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Default Re: I did it again!

Greed is a deadly sin.

That's an excellent summary of my stupidness on this hand.
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Old 12-03-2005, 04:57 PM
Godfather80 Godfather80 is offline
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Default Re: I did it again!

[ QUOTE ]
Well, I screwed up here. I hate my river call. I checked the turn to induce this action, and that's why I called. But my river play was stupid, induced by my stupid turn play.

Don't let this happen to you. Or at least if you do, try to learn something from it.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB ($12.65)
UTG ($5.25)
MP ($85.55)
Hero ($66.65)
SB ($55.30)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $0.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, MP calls $3.

Turn: ($10.75) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, Hero checks.

River: ($10.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $9</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $80.55</font>, Hero calls $52.65 (All-In).

Final Pot: $152.95

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Jesus, that got out of control fast. I like your turn play if, and only if, villain will fold to any bet on the turn, but will bluff lead on the river. But, inducing a bluff in this situation means you simply call. Raising in this instance will most often simply fold a worse hand, but will on occasion lose you the entire pot.

Great induce on the turn. Bad raise on river in my opinion.
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Old 12-03-2005, 04:59 PM
ajmargarine ajmargarine is offline
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Default Re: I did it again!

Check the turn when the board's not so coordinated. You got two clubs and straight cards out there. Better to bet the turn, call the river, IMO. As played, I'd seriously consider calling the river $3. It's not much, but when you gave up the betting impetus, you allowed him to control the pot size. Fold to his 3-bet push, but you probably know that.
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Old 12-03-2005, 05:00 PM
GrunchCan GrunchCan is offline
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Default Re: I did it again!

I agree that my river raise was bad. I'm not sure I agree that my induce was not an error. But I'm listening...
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Old 12-03-2005, 06:58 PM
swolfe swolfe is offline
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Default Re: I did it again!

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I agree that my river raise was bad. I'm not sure I agree that my induce was not an error. But I'm listening...

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draw heavy board, i bet the turn. call or check the river.
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Old 12-03-2005, 07:01 PM
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Default Re: I did it again!

Little hand, little pot. Big hand, big pot.
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Old 12-03-2005, 07:03 PM
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Default Re: I did it again!

[ QUOTE ]
I agree that my river raise was bad. I'm not sure I agree that my induce was not an error. But I'm listening...

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm not even gonna mention that it's a draw heavy board. What hand do you put your opponent on here?
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Old 12-03-2005, 07:03 PM
BobboFitos BobboFitos is offline
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Default Re: I did it again!

you almost are never winning when he pushes the river
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