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$33 AK... Missed Flop
My post flop play is weak... how would you play post flop, and why? I did not like villain's bet on the flop that missed me... but did flop help or hurt villain? His bet suggests that it helped, or did not hurt him...
Seat 3 is the button Total number of players : 8 Seat 2: pineapple888 (1805) Seat 3: Dr_Jeckyl_00 (715) Seat 4: ZENIT69 (1120) Seat 5: slangin_sara (765) Seat 7: QuasiFiction (1815) Seat 8: A1688 (290) Seat 9: LuCkYl7 (1040) Seat 10: tenntux (450) ZENIT69 posts small blind (25) slangin_sara posts big blind (50) ** Dealing down cards ** Dealt to Dr_Jeckyl_00 [ Ks, Ad ] QuasiFiction folds. A1688 folds. LuCkYl7 folds. tenntux folds. pineapple888 folds. Dr_Jeckyl_00 raises (150) to 150 ZENIT69 folds. slangin_sara calls (100) ** Dealing Flop ** : [ Td, 8h, 7c ] slangin_sara bets (250) HERO? Results in White <font color="white"> Dr_Jeckyl_00 raises (565) to 565 Dr_Jeckyl_00 is all-In. slangin_sara calls (315) ** Dealing Turn ** : [ Kc ] ** Dealing River ** : [ As ] Creating Main Pot with $1455 with Dr_Jeckyl_00 ** Summary ** Main Pot: 1455 | Board: [ Td 8h 7c Kc As ] pineapple888 balance 1805, didn't bet (folded) Dr_Jeckyl_00 balance 1455, bet 715, collected 1455, net +740 [ Ks Ad ] [ two pairs, aces and kings -- Ad,As,Ks,Kc,Td ] ZENIT69 balance 1095, lost 25 (folded) slangin_sara balance 50, lost 715 [ Qh Qc ] [ a pair of queens -- As,Kc,Qh,Qc,Td ] QuasiFiction balance 1815, didn't bet (folded) A1688 balance 290, didn't bet (folded) LuCkYl7 balance 1040, didn't bet (folded) tenntux balance 450, didn't bet (folded) EVEN THOUGH I WON, I THINK I SHOULD HAVE FOLDED TO HIS FLOP BET... BUT AS IS OFTEN THE CASE I GET IMPULSIVE AND DON'T THINK THINGS THROUGH </font> |
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Re: $33 AK... Missed Flop
Eh, just fold.
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Re: $33 AK... Missed Flop
With only 715 chips at the start of the hand you should just shove that preflop. You don't have enough chips to make a continuation bet after the flop when you hit.
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Re: $33 AK... Missed Flop
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With only 715 chips at the start of the hand you should just shove that preflop. [/ QUOTE ] I disagree. There's hardly ever a reason to open push with >10BB. [ QUOTE ] You don't have enough chips to make a continuation bet after the flop when you hit. [/ QUOTE ] Yes you do (see villain's action), and so what if you didn't? |
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Re: $33 AK... Missed Flop
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Eh, just fold. [/ QUOTE ] Yep. |
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Re: $33 AK... Missed Flop
I agree with pineapple888. No reaosn to puch pre-flop and you have plenty of chips left to make a continuation bet post-flop, which i would probably have done had she not bet first. After the bet it's either a fold or an all in and I think fold is the way to go.
I've also got to say that I'm not really enamored with the way she played her queens. |
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Re: $33 AK... Missed Flop
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[ QUOTE ] With only 715 chips at the start of the hand you should just shove that preflop. [/ QUOTE ] I disagree. There's hardly ever a reason to open push with >10BB. [/ QUOTE ] (sorry for the hijak) Not to be a nit, but having 10.5 or 11 or 12 BB could make a pretty compelling reason. Often when I'm stealing, if I have 12.5 or under BB (or my victims do) I'll just push away. No need to worry about 5.-2.5 BB. It gets rid of a lot of resteal headaches. (Normally starting at lvl 4+) |
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Re: $33 AK... Missed Flop
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] With only 715 chips at the start of the hand you should just shove that preflop. [/ QUOTE ] I disagree. There's hardly ever a reason to open push with >10BB. [/ QUOTE ] (sorry for the hijak) Not to be a nit, but having 10.5 or 11 or 12 BB could make a pretty compelling reason. Often when I'm stealing, if I have 12.5 or under BB (or my victims do) I'll just push away. No need to worry about 5.-2.5 BB. It gets rid of a lot of resteal headaches. (Normally starting at lvl 4+) [/ QUOTE ] The point is, villains can't tell if you are pot-committed when you simply raise, but not push, with more than 10BB. Maybe you are going to call a push, maybe not. This uncertainty works to your advantage, if you are consistent about it. But whatever works for you... |
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Re: $33 AK... Missed Flop
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With only 715 chips at the start of the hand you should just shove that preflop. You don't have enough chips to make a continuation bet after the flop when you hit. [/ QUOTE ] Best post in the thread. And it's a great value push too because lots of worse aces will look you up. |
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Re: $33 AK... Missed Flop
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[ QUOTE ] With only 715 chips at the start of the hand you should just shove that preflop. You don't have enough chips to make a continuation bet after the flop when you hit. [/ QUOTE ] Best post in the thread. And it's a great value push too because lots of worse aces will look you up. [/ QUOTE ] Uh, yeah. More worse Aces will call a push than a raise. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] |
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