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Old 11-26-2005, 01:08 PM
Obliky Obliky is offline
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Default Monster pot, TPTK

This is about my 2nd hand on the table, but i sat down at the table as the average VP$IP is ~70. Therefore im assuming villians are loose and probably passive.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, MP calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, SB calls, UTG calls, MP calls, CO calls.

Flop: (21 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG folds, MP calls, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, MP calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (16.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, MP calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

River: (20.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, MP folds, CO calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 23.50 BB

I capped preflop due to the dead money being put in by UTG, MP and CO. My standard play here is to call the preflop 3-bet.

I wasnt sure what to do postflop as my position relative to the flop bettor was [censored], therefore i couldnt see any way to protect my hand.
Would it have been better to call the flop bet and raise the turn, hoping the SB 3-bets?
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Old 11-26-2005, 01:16 PM
POKhER POKhER is offline
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Default Re: Monster pot, TPTK

Well i'm not folding, But i dont like a few things.

Capping, you assuming hes loose/passive.

I tend to assume nothing vs unknown and try to get to know him.

After the turn bet i don't see us winning this often specially as you capped and he continues to not be bothered by the queen and callers.

I think you played it the only way possibly and to raise is probably worse.

Sure - hand protection, but you also kill a bluff and get 3bet(And will you fold TPTK after raising and being 3betted on flop or turn or river? )

NH, AA - KK/QQ ? psycho with JJ/TT or AQ split? meh
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Old 11-26-2005, 01:30 PM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
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Default Re: Monster pot, TPTK

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im assuming villians are loose and probably passive.

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What does it mean when a passive villain bets into the field (or even bets into you) after you capped preflop? I don't think I'm raising the flop.
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Old 11-26-2005, 01:53 PM
Obliky Obliky is offline
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Default Re: Monster pot, TPTK

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im assuming villians are loose and probably passive.

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What does it mean when a passive villain bets into the field (or even bets into you) after you capped preflop? I don't think I'm raising the flop.

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Yeah i dont think the flop raise was a good idea. So are you recommending calling down unimproved?
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Old 11-26-2005, 01:58 PM
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Default Re: Monster pot, TPTK

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im assuming villians are loose and probably passive.

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What does it mean when a passive villain bets into the field (or even bets into you) after you capped preflop? I don't think I'm raising the flop.

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Yeah i dont think the flop raise was a good idea. So are you recommending calling down unimproved?

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Call him down. Hope that the assumed read was wrong. See AA. Go on to the next hand.
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