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Opponent is something like 40/15/1
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter Button ($465.70) SB ($746.58) BB ($985.29) UTG ($384.20) Hero ($394) Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2. <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $9</font>, Hero calls $9, Button calls $9, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>. Flop: ($33) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $25</font>, Hero calls $25, Button folds. Turn: ($83) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $60</font>, UTG calls $60. River: ($203) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> UTG calls $290.20 (All-In), Hero? At $1/2, I had a safe river laydown here. At 2/4 things changes somehow. I get roughly 1:3. So he needs to be freaking at least 75% to make a call correct, right? Now, the players that have experience at Party 2/4 6max: What's your default play against an average player who is capable of a move but not overly wild? From his view, with let's say 2 pair against a TAG, pushing is standard here? |
#2
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I would almost always fold this. I probably would've folded preflop, too.
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Fold preflop
As played, insta-fold river. |
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I probably would've folded preflop, too. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Fold preflop [/ QUOTE ] You do NOT fold AJ preflop 5-handed to a raise barely more than double BB. After that, I think you played it well. The turn bet looks good but a river fold is unfortunately standard. KTs on his end. |
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I insta folded and he showed me QQ.
I like his move very much and was curious if this is kind of standard at 2/4, which would make the fold tougher. |
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I insta folded and he showed me QQ. I like his move very much and was curious if this is kind of standard at 2/4, which would make the fold tougher. [/ QUOTE ] Are you referring to the river action alone or his line throughout the hand? I think playing QQ the way he did is pretty lousy. His river play only worked because his flop and turn play were so poor. Edit to add: His preflop raise sucked, too. I guess he got 1/4 streets right.... |
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[ QUOTE ] I insta folded and he showed me QQ. I like his move very much and was curious if this is kind of standard at 2/4, which would make the fold tougher. [/ QUOTE ] Are you referring to the river action alone or his line throughout the hand? I think playing QQ the way he did is pretty lousy. His river play only worked because his flop and turn play were so poor. Edit to add: His preflop raise sucked, too. I guess he got 1/4 streets right.... [/ QUOTE ] Really? I thought villan's play was ok IMO. Do you prefer to bet flop, bet/call the turn? Do you prefer to bet this turn instead of checking? I think the likelyhood of a straight is fairly high, and if villan is a calling station, I prefer to check/call the turn. How would you have played it ghaz? (assuming you are in villan's position with QQ). |
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That's usually a move reserved for when you have position and are checked to. It makes sense if your opponent isn't thinking on multiple levels (or multitabling). I think it's just desperate when you don't have position and he's going to lose money on that play.
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Well, I would've made a real preflop raise, not this namby pamby 2.25xBB crap. Against many players, I'll bet smallish on the turn (like 1/2 pot) and then when they minraise me, I know they have the straight but I have odds to fill on the end. If they make a real raise, they definitely have the straight already and I can fold if I don't have odds. I really hate giving a free card to a likely flush draw with a 1-card straight possible. A lot of Party players will call so many worse hands (flush draws, two pair, etc.) but not raise or bet any of them. On the end, I almost never try to push somebody out of a chop because nobody ever folds (which is why pushing just a naked king there is awesome even if its an overbet).
Depending on what I know about my opponent, I could modify this play, too. I don't think I know any opponents I would take villain's exact line against. |
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Agreed on your PF thoughts. Thanks for turn analysis.
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