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Weak tight or just right?
V. solid player raises under the gun. I am next to act with two red tens and I fold. I felt queasy afterwards.
Is this play ever correct? RH |
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Re: Weak tight or just right?
Is this play ever correct?
Of course... if your opponent only raises with AA-JJ, then how could it be anything but correct? In fact, my standard play with TT against a tight UTG raiser is to muckity muck. On the other hand, I don't catagorize most of my opponents as tight UTG raisers. |
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Re: Weak tight or just right?
Playing 15-30 or higher you should make this fold about half the time. There are games where the raiser is tight but the other players are loose enough where it is OK to call. Usually however it is raise or fold.
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Re: Weak tight or just right?
Don't feel queazy about it, feel good that you made the correct play. It's reraise or muck and I would nearly always muck TT to a solid or weak tight EP raise. I folded QQ preflop the other night to a raise from a player I only ever saw raise AA.
PokerPrince |
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Re: Weak tight or just right?
Actually if you know that he will raise with say 99/AK and up even then it is a fold . If you know he will raise with 88/AQ and up and you believe you have some control over him then a reraise is the right play -- leading at the pot.
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Re: Weak tight or just right?
I would reraise unless the game was a capfest, in which case I would flat call. I would never fold.
Tommy |
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Re: Weak tight or just right?
If you were on the button, the general rule is you
only want to play a hand that is better than your opp's avg starting hand... To figure this out, you would count the combinations that he would raise with UTG.....say approx 78 (AK,AQ,AJs, AA-88)...Now according to the hand groupings is TT in the upper 39? (hmm...roughly AA,KK,AK,QQ,AQs,JJ, which makes 44)...That in itself would make it a fold, but the blinds (dead money if you get them out w/ a 3 bet) could make it a marginal play... You do this ahead of time by the way...Like at home. Of course if one of the blinds played horribly this could be an easy play. As for calling it from an EP, who wants to disagree with the Oz, besides Tommy. |
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Re: Weak tight or just right?
I would fold face up.
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Re: Weak tight or just right?
If you were looking at this you should compensate for the fact that with the AK, AQ card combinations you are basically even money and with AA, KK, QQ, JJ you are about a 4 to 1 dog, and are a 4 to 1 fav against 99, 88 and then calculate your expectation. THis would give you the cutoff point at which the odds are balanced with the dead money pre-flop.
Note that this analysis is strictly true only if you are all in pre-flop but should give a pretty good idea. |
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Re: Weak tight or just right?
Thanks for the input. Upon watching the player a bit more, I got a better sense of his UTG raising standards and became more and more confident that a reraise with tens here would more often than not be a good play against this particular player.
However, the table texture was such that often at least one (and usually not more than one) player on the other side of the table would call three bets cold with a marginal hand (worse than AK). How should this affect your decision? RH |
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