KQs..want to muck...but...

WalkAmongUs · #1 11-17-2005, 08:48 PM

Yeah, so I raise and get reraised. My heart wants to muck but my head says I might be getting enough pot odds to call. If these damn things weren't suited they'd have been mucked in a second.

Am I getting enough to call here?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises, 2 folds, MP3 3-bets, CO caps, 2 folds, BB calls, Hero ???

gharp · #2 11-17-2005, 08:53 PM

I would definitely call, getting ~7:1. The BB calling helps you out a lot and your implied odds are great if you flop a monster since these guys clearly like their hands.

milesdyson · #3 11-17-2005, 08:55 PM

unsuited, instafold. suited, instacall.

Redd · #4 11-17-2005, 08:56 PM

I don't have time to do the Shillx-style math right now but it looks like you're better than 7-1 to hit a flush/straight draw or better on the flop. I this were KQo I'd fold it for 2 more but I call here.

WalkAmongUs · #5 11-17-2005, 08:57 PM

but how much of a factor does domination play? I may hit a K or Q and be drawing dead. I'd probably be playing this only for a flush...

shant · #6 11-17-2005, 09:10 PM

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but how much of a factor does domination play? I may hit a K or Q and be drawing dead. I'd probably be playing this only for a flush...

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You're going to have to be comfortable getting away from flopping a pair based on the postflop action.

#7 11-17-2005, 09:16 PM

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but how much of a factor does domination play? I may hit a K or Q and be drawing dead. I'd probably be playing this only for a flush...

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You may not necessarily be drawing dead. It depends on the board texture. If you do flop top pair, the pot will be big enough to call 1 bet as you have outs to make 2 pair. Your position is not ideal tho.

#8 11-17-2005, 09:28 PM

Just call.

eviljeff · #9 11-17-2005, 09:51 PM

instacall. KQs plays great 4-way

ArturiusX · #10 11-17-2005, 10:23 PM

Call. If it was KQo, and I had some stats, I might consider a fold.