Another overbet push

catlover · #1 11-11-2005, 05:04 PM

Is there a better play than pushing here?

The problem is, if I don't push, I don't know how to play the turn.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP ($829)
CO ($998)
Button ($3745.75)
SB ($1201)
BB ($1000)
Hero ($1403)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
Hero raises to $20, MP calls $20, 2 folds, SB (poster) calls $15, 1 fold.

Flop: ($70) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $30 , MP folds, SB raises to $60, Hero pushes

AZK · #2 11-11-2005, 05:08 PM

We really gotta get you off the minraise mindset. I don't see how you can put 1.3k into a $60 pot with a pair plus flush draw. But not value bet an overpair on the river against a worst hand, or steal from someone who checks to you after they continuation bet and chek turn. WTF?

HoldEmKillah · #3 11-11-2005, 05:11 PM

I think a push with 8 9 here would be good. But since there's like no money in the pot I say build it up. If you 3bet to like $250 and hit a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] on the turn then the action won't freeze up since he won't necessarily put you on the draw.

howzit · #4 11-11-2005, 05:27 PM

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Is there a better play than pushing here?

The problem is, if I don't push, I don't know how to play the turn.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP ($829)
CO ($998)
Button ($3745.75)
SB ($1201)
BB ($1000)
Hero ($1403)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $5.
Hero raises to $20, MP calls $20, 2 folds, SB (poster) calls $15, 1 fold.

Flop: ($70) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $30 , MP folds, SB raises to $60, Hero pushes

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u like to go apeshit in marginal spots. . .

make it $200-225.

I hope you min-raise w/big pairs preflop. . .

catlover · #5 11-11-2005, 05:34 PM

I minraise everything except in the cutoff or the button.

I think y'all are right I shoulda made this one 200-250ish.

thabadguy · #6 11-11-2005, 05:36 PM

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I minraise everything except in the cutoff or the button.

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WHY?
WHY?
WHY?
God kills a kitten for every minraise.

Save the kittens.

catlover · #7 11-11-2005, 05:42 PM

I explained it once, and was subjected to lots of abuse, but no one was willing to engage me in serious conversation about my reasoning. That being the case, I don't see much use in explaining it anymore.

However, I'm delighted to talk with y'all about the rest of my game. It's been quite helpful.

technologic · #8 11-11-2005, 07:45 PM

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I explained it once, and was subjected to lots of abuse, but no one was willing to engage me in serious conversation about my reasoning. That being the case, I don't see much use in explaining it anymore.

However, I'm delighted to talk with y'all about the rest of my game. It's been quite helpful.

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do you have a link to this thread? i'm very curious as to hear the reasoning.

captZEEbo1 · #9 11-11-2005, 08:02 PM

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We really gotta get you off the minraise mindset. I don't see how you can put 1.3k into a $60 pot with a pair plus flush draw. But not value bet an overpair on the river against a worst hand, or steal from someone who checks to you after they continuation bet and chek turn. WTF?

[/ QUOTE ]not a $60 pot, but pot is $160 now. I don't mind this bet really.

HoldEmKillah · #10 11-11-2005, 08:05 PM

There was an old thread where Raymer spoke about miniraises preflop. He said that if you never make another miniraise again in your life then you will have improved as a poker player.