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Old 11-10-2005, 05:58 PM
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Hey, I signed up a while ago and never really got around to posting very much because I stopped playing a lot of poker. I have just recently gotten back into playing and decided to come here for some improvement.

Pokerroom $1-$2

I just sat down at this table recently, so no real reads on anyone specific. The table is however fairly passive and loose.

Hero is on the button

ANTES/BLINDS
Player1 posts blind ($0.50), Player2 posts blind ($1).

PRE-FLOP
Villain1 calls $1, Player3 folds, Player4 folds, Player5 folds, Player6 folds, Villain2 calls $1, Hero bets $2, Player1 folds, Player2 folds, Villain1 calls $1, Villian2 calls $1.

FLOP [board cards 7S,8H,KD ]
Villain1 checks, Villain2 checks, Hero bets $1, Villain1 calls $1, Villian2 calls $1.

TURN [board cards 7S,8H,KD,7D ]
Villain1 checks, Villian2 checks, Hero checks.

Was this a bad check? Should I have bet this? I was worried about someone having a K with weak kicker, so thats why I checked.

RIVER [board cards 7S,8H,KD,7D,AD ]
Villain1 checks, Villian2 checks, Hero checks.

Bad river card for me. If I wasn't already beat than I know I am now, so I feel like i have to check this one.

Should I have kept pushing on the turn? or did doing that just show weakness?

Thanks for your help.
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Old 11-10-2005, 06:02 PM
MrWookie47 MrWookie47 is offline
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Default Re: QQ on the button

As the suckiness of the villains increases, your confidence in betting that turn increases. No reads? Eh, it's probably ok to check. River check is fine.

Edit: Had the turn not paired the bottom card, it's a pretty easy bet.

Edit2: I changed my mind again. This is a very good bet. Because of how easily you can fold to a c/r. Bet as the last money you're putting into the pot.
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Old 11-10-2005, 06:07 PM
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Default Re: QQ on the button

Hi Battles i would have bet the turn and checked that crappy river card through.
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Old 11-10-2005, 10:28 PM
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Default Re: QQ on the button

My default play is to bet the turn.

As you played it, does anyone think a river bet gets a K to fold often enough to make it worth it? How about when combined with a bet for value because we may well have the best hand?
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Old 11-10-2005, 11:21 PM
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I bet/3 bet the turn and bet/call the river. I don't see villians showing any strength. Even playing hero's way til river I would bet for both bluff/value bet.
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Old 11-10-2005, 11:56 PM
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Bet the turn deffinitely, I think you can get away with checking the river.
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Old 11-11-2005, 05:38 AM
tyler_cracker tyler_cracker is offline
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Default Re: QQ on the button

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I bet/3 bet the turn and bet/call the river. I don't see villians showing any strength. Even playing hero's way til river I would bet for both bluff/value bet.

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Well, you can't 3-bet unless a villain shows strength.

Also, why are you 3-betting this turn? Spewage.
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Old 11-11-2005, 06:10 AM
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Default Re: QQ on the button

Bet the turn, fold to a raise. If the come along, check the river.
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Old 11-11-2005, 06:17 AM
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I bet/3 bet the turn and bet/call the river. I don't see villians showing any strength. Even playing hero's way til river I would bet for both bluff/value bet.


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O.K. So you bet, villian raises, you re-raise, he caps. You just payed 4 bets (+1 more on the river) to find out you lost. If you get check raised here, you are behind--either fold or call down. Bet the river with two over cards and a paired board against a vil that just showed major aggro by C/R the turn? Can you explain this reasoning?
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