I got owned hard.. folding KK for 1 bet on the river

[bobdibble]

The villain that raises has weak tightish stats over 490 mined hands. 15/6/1.6. The villain that leads the river is a donk and his bet puts him all in... his stats are otherwise passive though with a post flop agro factor of something like .5

My original river plan after the donk lead was to go for an overcall rather than raise since I don't expect that button is calling a raise with a hand that I beat.

But then.. wtf.. button comes alive with a raise?! The weak tightish villain is raising in a protected, unfoldable (by SB) pot when the second J hits the river.

I had the best hand here.. but do I have it often enough to call? I've been running bad lately, and guess I saw monsters... sigh.

Party Poker 20/40 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (10 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB calls, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, SB calls.

River: (12.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB calls $40 (All-In), Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero folds?!?!

Final Pot: 16.50 BB

Hero......punches a hole in his monitor.

I wish i could fold right there, because it's probably the right play like, 97% of the time.

Good fold...

[DcifrThs]

i have a general rule that has worked very well.

when 1 player is all in, and you have shown you are going to call and then a player raises behind you, its almost ALWAYS to get you out. i call in these situations very very often...probably near 90% of the time.

Barron

[bernie]

Given the buttons' play throughout the hand, how does that J help him on the river unless he had a flush draw with the J of clubs?

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But then.. wtf.. button comes alive with a raise?!

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That 'wtf' part? That's why you call for one bet in this big a pot.

b

[steveyz]

Only hand I can put button on that beats us is something like AJ [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], which likely caps the flop.

I call and expect to see a Q often.

[RED_RAIN]

I call and see AQo, NH

If I overcall this bet and then get rasied behind and closing the action, call.