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#1
11-07-2005, 06:57 PM
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qq?
No real reads here only about 30 hands into the game
Sorry no convertor for full tilt .10 .25 NL 9 handed 1 sitting out me $21.65 MP1 $11.30 Button $8.50 i am UTG+2 with qq 2 folds i raise to $1 MP1 raises to 3.5 1 fold button raises to 8.50 and is all in blinds fold me? Results MP1 calls Button shows jj MP1 shows 10 10 Button wins with no help from the board 
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#2
11-07-2005, 07:01 PM
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Re: qq?
whoops sorry meant button won this hand with jj
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#4
11-07-2005, 07:21 PM
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Re: qq?
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No real reads here only about 30 hands into the game Sorry no convertor for full tilt .10 .25 NL 9 handed 1 sitting out me $21.65 MP1 $11.30 Button $8.50 i am UTG+2 with qq 2 folds i raise to $1 MP1 raises to 3.5 1 fold button raises to 8.50 and is all in blinds fold me? Results MP1 calls Button shows jj MP1 shows 10 10 MP1 wins with no help from the board [/ QUOTE ] Does "no reads" mean they have played solidly? If so, then I'm probably folding and waiting for a better spot. If "no reads" means bad NL25 player, then I'm pushing. It all depends on what you've seen them do in the 30 hands you've spent with them.
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#5
11-07-2005, 07:24 PM
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Re: qq?
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No real reads [/ QUOTE ] No reads, I'd fold QQ if stacks were deeper and watch to see what villains are holding at the showdown. If one or both have less than KK, I take a note on that player for next time. It's a little tougher here to lay down QQ because both villains only have 1/2 a buy-in. After 20 hands, you should know if they have been playing "short stack" poker where they either go all-in or limp, and that's about it. If you suspect that both are playing like this, then call. But, without a read like that, I prefer to lay down QQ to a 3-bet all-in preflop. No need to get MOH'ed down with QQ.
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#6
11-07-2005, 07:53 PM
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Re: qq?
Ive looked this over 3 times now and I still dont know why we folded here. Im just getting into NL, but Harrington's book would never allow a play lilke this. Is it OK to push in a tourney and not push here? I just dont see how we can fold here at all with no reads. Why are we automatically assuming that they have AA or KK?
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#8
11-07-2005, 08:32 PM
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Re: qq?
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This is easy call vs short stacks. Don't post results. [/ QUOTE ]
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#10
11-07-2005, 09:57 PM
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Re: qq?
tournament yes i call. in a cash game there is much to consider such as being against ak which the first raise may have. i can pick a better spot then coin fliping for a large pot which was my reasoning for the fold, figured i had at least a coin flip with one and dominating the other person. i guess since it was only 10$ but i dont think i would do it at a higher level so its not about the amount they had. just felt like i could have gone either way with the hand
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