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Old 11-07-2005, 06:34 PM
Wynton Wynton is offline
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Default D\'Agostino\'s short-handed advice

For those of you who don't get emailed columns from Full Tilt, here are John D'Agostino's words of wisdom about playing short-handed:

In a three- or four-handed Limit Hold ‘em cash game, I will raise about two of every three times I have the button. The quality of my hand is essentially irrelevant. The position raise puts me in control of the hand and, even if I'm holding total trash, the pressure puts the blinds in a spot where they need to catch a piece of the flop.

For example, say I raise on the button and the big blind calls with a modest but playable hand, maybe Qc-Td. Now, if the flop comes with any Ace or King, the blind is going to have a very difficult time continuing with the hand if he checks and I bet the flop. In fact, the blind is going to have a very difficult time continuing on any board that doesn't contain a Queen or Ten.

If I follow up my raise and bet the flop with, say, 7-high, and get called or check-raised, it's very easy to lay down the hand. I know this is going to happen at times, but I pick up the pot often enough to make the constant button aggression profitable.


Small Blind Play

When playing against opponents who raise frequently in position, I'm sure to respond with aggression in the small blind. If I'm holding a hand that's likely best at a three-handed table - something as modest as A-9 might qualify - and I'm facing a button raise, I take control of the hand and three-bet. That puts additional pressure on the big blind. If I only call the button raise, the big blind will be getting great odds (5:1) to call the additional bet. And I'd far prefer to play the hand heads-up.

After three-betting from the small blind, I follow up with a bet on the flop almost 100 percent of the time. Since I represented a big hand pre-flop, I want to put my opponent to a decision immediately. Once I see how my opponent reacts, I can decide how I should proceed with the hand. I'll have to give it up sometimes, but the pressure will force a lot of folds.

Big Blind Play

The big blind is the only place where I'm content to call bets pre-flop. In fact, a call is my usual reaction to a button raise. If I start with a moderate hand, I can see the flop and decide how to proceed. If I start with a strong hand, like pocket Aces or Kings, I'll still call and look to check-raise the flop. I don't like to three-bet from the big blind because it tends to announce my hand. My opponents know that I'm starting with a very big hand.

Overall Goal

As you can probably tell by now, I believe that aggression is key to success in short-handed Limit Hold ‘em. I think the constant bets and raises create two dynamics that can be exploited for profit. First, by being the aggressor, I have the opportunity to pick up a number of pots where both my opponent and I miss the flop.

Second, the aggression has the tendency to lead opponents to make some very bad decisions. After some time, opponents may call bets on every street with nothing more than Ace- or King-high. When they start doing that, I can tighten up and only bet hands that are likely to be winners at showdown.

At times my style may look maniacal. But in short-handed limit play, it works.
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Old 11-07-2005, 06:38 PM
Grisgra Grisgra is offline
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Default Re: D\'Agostino\'s short-handed advice

If that style is manaical for 3-handed and 4-handed, then I'm certifiably insane. Which may be the case. "Something as modest as A9 might qualify" for 3-betting in the SB after a button raise in a 3-handed game?!
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Old 11-07-2005, 06:40 PM
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Default Re: D\'Agostino\'s short-handed advice

And note that he does not like to 3-bet when he's in the big blind either.
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Old 11-07-2005, 06:40 PM
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Default Re: D\'Agostino\'s short-handed advice

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If that style is manaical for 3-handed and 4-handed, then I'm certifiably insane. Which may be the case. "Something as modest as A9 might qualify" for 3-betting in the SB after a button raise in a 3-handed game?!

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haha I thought the same thing. Anyone who doesn't 3 bet A9o in 3 or less games is weenie
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Old 11-07-2005, 06:42 PM
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Default Re: D\'Agostino\'s short-handed advice

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In a three- or four-handed Limit Hold ‘em cash game, I will raise about two of every three times I have the button. The quality of my hand is essentially irrelevant. The position raise puts me in control of the hand and, even if I'm holding total trash, the pressure puts the blinds in a spot where they need to catch a piece of the flop.

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I think this is too much. It is very easy to exploit this by playing back weak on the flop. In my experience at 10/20 this happens very very often. Obviously you can adjust and make some light calldowns, etc., but with this happening almost 70% of the time you have the button you will have the worst of it far too often.

Edit: also, you will start getting 3-bet on at least 25% of hands which is not fun when have an average hand (like j7o average).
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Old 11-07-2005, 06:44 PM
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Default Re: D\'Agostino\'s short-handed advice

" In a three- or four-handed Limit Hold ‘em cash game, I will raise about two of every three times I have the button. The quality of my hand is essentially irrelevant."

It goes down hill from here, but this should clue you in on the fact that hes an idiot. Why wouldn't you just advise raising the top 2/3rds of your hand range?
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Old 11-07-2005, 06:45 PM
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And note that he does not like to 3-bet when he's in the big blind either.

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Yes, that was a little bizarre as well. Not that my super-shorthanded skills are demonstratably fantastic at laggy tables, but his advice definitely seems a little tightish to me (other than the button raising). Unless he's not telling us everything [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].
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Old 11-07-2005, 06:54 PM
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And note that he does not like to 3-bet when he's in the big blind either.

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I think the problem with not three-betting from the BB in a 3 or 4-person game is that you encourage the players with position on you to routinely raise preflop, including with trash hands. A semi-regular habit of playing back at the raiser preflop, will encourage the button to fold more marginal hands, which then puts you in a HU fight against the SB (on whom you have position). Smooth calling from the BB is too passive/reactive, if the button is aggressive.
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Old 11-07-2005, 07:13 PM
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i see him playing 50/100 or 100/200 2 or 3- handed on full tilt sometimes.. you high rollers should jump in.
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Old 11-07-2005, 07:24 PM
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i see him playing 50/100 or 100/200 2 or 3- handed on full tilt sometimes.. you high rollers should jump in.

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nh
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