Fold the boat draw?

IGMorton · #1 11-01-2005, 06:19 PM

Is the limp ok on a passive table with vpip around 45% (50+% seeing flops)?

Who calls the turn raise here?

MP - 27/16 very aggressive post flop
CO - 50/2 likes to call down a lot

Party Poker 10.00/20.00 Hold'em (6 handed) link

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero calls, MP raises, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks.

Turn: (4.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, MP raises, CO calls, BB folds, Hero folds.

River: (9.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP checks, CO checks.

Final Pot: 9.25 BB.

Stefan_K · #2 11-01-2005, 06:21 PM

pfr i fold

turn i play the same

IGMorton · #3 11-01-2005, 06:24 PM

i don't normally limp much.. but table vpip was like 45% at the time

#4 11-01-2005, 06:25 PM

Good hand for the muck esp. with the cold-caller of the raise. Looks like you're quite possibly up against two made hands and are likely drawing dead to that full house. Plus it's a tiny pot.

Crimson · #5 11-01-2005, 06:31 PM

Fold PF, if you are gonna play the hand, raise it.

Fold the turn raise.

PTjvs · #6 11-01-2005, 06:49 PM

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Fold PF, if you are gonna play the hand, raise it.

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Think I disagree, especially if table is loose/passive. Fold is best, but your hand plays much better multiway than HU. I think you are better limping than raising.

imported_leader · #7 11-01-2005, 09:41 PM

Is there something grievously wrong with check/folding the turn? It's 4-way. The PFR's check is suspicious here. There are 3 hearts on the board and none in your hand. All your outs are tainted to some extent. The PF limp is marginal but not wrong as long as the table loose and passive.