Small flush vs River donk bet

mtdoak · #1 11-01-2005, 12:41 AM

Villian is an overtight-passive (like 9/5/.89)

I post early, well, cause I'm a moron...

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls, Hero (poster) checks, 2 folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, BB bets, UTG calls, MP1 calls, Hero raises, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 folds.

River: (9.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, Hero???

Final Pot: 15.50 BB

toss · #2 11-01-2005, 01:28 AM

I'd go for some overcalls.

Pog0 · #3 11-01-2005, 01:30 AM

I'd raise here. You're probably ahead, so for those times you're ahead go for the chance at 3 bets by raising.

Villian is passive, so he's probably not reraising without the nuts. I'd hate to be 3-bet here because since villian obviously plays incorrectly, you never know when he'll "slowplay" his 66 and 3-bet you for value on the river.

#4 11-01-2005, 01:32 AM

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Villian is an overtight-passive (like 9/5/.89)

I post early, well, cause I'm a moron...

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls, Hero (poster) checks, 2 folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, BB bets, UTG calls, MP1 calls, Hero raises, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 folds.

River: (9.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, Hero???

Final Pot: 15.50 BB

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Against this type of villian, I go for overcalls.

bakku · #5 11-01-2005, 02:11 AM

this is not a good flop raise

MCS · #6 11-01-2005, 02:13 AM

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I'd raise here. You're probably ahead, so for those times you're ahead go for the chance at 3 bets by raising.

Villian is passive, so he's probably not reraising without the nuts. I'd hate to be 3-bet here because since villian obviously plays incorrectly, you never know when he'll "slowplay" his 66 and 3-bet you for value on the river.

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This seems self-contradictory. Go for 3 bets, but hate it?

Yako · #7 11-01-2005, 02:24 AM

Why is this not a good flop raise? At the cost of maybe knocking out the sb, you have a good chance at getting a free card on the turn.

If you were kidding, just raise your hand. That's the rule my friends use, I have a VERY defective sarcasm detector. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

mtdoak · #8 11-01-2005, 03:00 AM

It'd be an even worse call. Its a raise or fold here IMHO.

jason_t · #9 11-01-2005, 03:19 AM

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this is not a good flop raise

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I disagree. It is a bad flop raise.

jason_t · #10 11-01-2005, 03:20 AM

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It'd be an even worse call. Its a raise or fold here IMHO.

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I am crying.