Table Coaches are Prawns (Low Content)

naphand · #1 10-31-2005, 07:43 AM

Table Coach 1 was quite aggressive but prone to tilt IMO <shock>. V$IP/PFR something like 50/15...lol...really quite hideous, maybe not a complete fish but certainly some kind of seafood...[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

$5/$10 Hold'em (5 handed) converter

Preflop: Naphand is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Naphand raises, MP (TC1) calls, 1 fold, SB calls, BB (TC2) calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, TC2 checks, Naphand checks, TC1 bets, SB calls, TC2 calls, Naphand raises, TC1 3-bets, SB calls, TC2 calls, Naphand caps, TC1 calls, SB calls, TC2 calls.

Turn: (12 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, TC2 checks, Naphand checks, TC1 bets, SB calls, TC2 calls, Naphand calls.

River: (16 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, TC2 checks, Naphand bets, TC1 folds, SB calls, TC2 calls.

Final Pot: 19 BB

Results:
SB has Kd 6d (straight, ten high).
BB has 6s 8s (straight, ten high).
Naphand has Ad Jd (straight, jack high).
Outcome: Naphand wins 19 BB.

The whole table was on my back here and it was GREAT. The chat went:

TC1: "unreal"
TC1: "for another huge pot"
TC2: "all those raises on nothing lol"
TC1: "he had a draw"
TC1: "lmao"
TC2: "still nothing"
TC1: "but his AJ was nothing"
TC1: "AJ was probably the worst after that flop based on %"
naphand: "yeah"
TC1: "but nh"
TC2: "22 beats your draw yes"
TC1: "bet ur draw and get runner runner straight instead"
TC1: "got it"
TC1: "u must be pro"
TC2: "and u keep raising until u miss is that it"
naphand: "LOLOLOLOL"
TC1: "then u put a lot in with nothin"
TC1: "what if river =A"
naphand: "never mind"
TC2: "it's aggressive, i'll give u that, but maybe foolhardy"
TC1: "i've seen worse"
TC1: "36 clubs maxing it out against a guy with AA"
naphand: "you play worse"
TC1: "i'm sorry i dont"
TC1: "i get outdrawn"
TC1: "u r done"
TC2: "that hand it worked, but over time if u do that u are going to go broke"
naphand: "MUHAHAHAHA"
TC2: "not arguing with u man, just stating facts"
naphand: ""facts""
TC2: "yes, statistical facts,u make the draw 35% of the time, what are u going to do the other 65%"
naphand: "zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz"
TC1: "u had 2% for the runner runner straight 7% for the Jack and 25% for flush"
naphand: "I wont educate you"
TC1: "miss those and ur dead"
naphand said, "but you can be table coach if you like"
naphand: "its all good"
TC1: "but u got the 2 %"
naphand said, "<yawn>"
TC2: "i wish u luck, because believe me ur going to need it lol"

Good times... [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

Stefan_K · #2 10-31-2005, 07:47 AM

anyway wp

NLSoldier · #3 10-31-2005, 08:04 AM

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The whole table was on my back here and it was GREAT. The chat went:

TC1: "unreal"
TC1: "for another huge pot"
TC2: "all those raises on nothing lol"
TC1: "he had a draw"
TC1: "lmao"
TC2: "still nothing"
TC1: "but his AJ was nothing"
TC1: "AJ was probably the worst after that flop based on %"
naphand: "yeah"
TC1: "but nh"
TC2: "22 beats your draw yes"
TC1: "bet ur draw and get runner runner straight instead"
TC1: "got it"
TC1: "u must be pro"
TC2: "and u keep raising until u miss is that it"
naphand: "LOLOLOLOL"
TC1: "then u put a lot in with nothin"
TC1: "what if river =A"
naphand: "never mind"
TC2: "it's aggressive, i'll give u that, but maybe foolhardy"
TC1: "i've seen worse"
TC1: "36 clubs maxing it out against a guy with AA"
naphand: "you play worse"
TC1: "i'm sorry i dont"
TC1: "i get outdrawn"
TC1: "u r done"
TC2: "that hand it worked, but over time if u do that u are going to go broke"
naphand: "MUHAHAHAHA"
TC2: "not arguing with u man, just stating facts"
naphand: ""facts""
TC2: "yes, statistical facts,u make the draw 35% of the time, what are u going to do the other 65%"
naphand: "zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz"
TC1: "u had 2% for the runner runner straight 7% for the Jack and 25% for flush"
naphand: "I wont educate you"
TC1: "miss those and ur dead"
naphand said, "but you can be table coach if you like"
naphand: "its all good"
TC1: "but u got the 2 %"
naphand said, "<yawn>"
TC2: "i wish u luck, because believe me ur going to need it lol"

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Show me the strategy.

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naphand · #4 10-31-2005, 08:13 AM

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(Low Content)

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Also, a thread was started recently by a respected forum poster who seemed very angry about getting table-coached. I made this as a response in-kind to show just how lacking such players (the coaches) generally are. A little knowledge and they think they can talk down to others - why worry about what others say except in here?

NLSoldier · #5 10-31-2005, 08:15 AM

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(Low Content)

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And if you cannot see the scope for discussion here, then you need to look harder...

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Maybe we can get a mod to go back and add (low content) to the goals post. I didnt expect people to open it looking for strategy content, my bad.

naphand · #6 10-31-2005, 08:22 AM

Actually, the "goals" BS is so ubiquitous now I think everyone knows what gubbins they are in for.

Like McDonalds, everyone knows it is crap and tastes crap but they keep coming back for more...Just because McDonalds is popular it does not mean the content is quality.

What really pisses me is, in another forum, the "goals" poster is the first to jump on others when he feels their posts are not worthy in terms of strategy. Either this is a strategy forum or it is not. Just look through the any typical "goals" thread to see just how off-topic they are.

What do you want from the forum?

PS
I edited my post since you replied...ooops

brazilio · #7 10-31-2005, 08:26 AM

I wouldn't consider baronzeus well-respected, more like a giant luckboxing fish who runs hot as [censored]. He also has a giant ego to fit his gigantic lucksack. His coaching thread was by far the most annoyingly useless thing he's ever made.

imitation · #8 10-31-2005, 08:35 AM

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I wouldn't consider baronzeus well-respected, more like a giant luckboxing fish who runs hot as [censored]. He also has a giant ego to fit his gigantic lucksack. His coaching thread was by far the most annoyingly useless thing he's ever made.

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/me hi5s brazilio

to OP, thread is stupid, you are stupid for typing back in chat.

brazilion makes the save.

naphand · #9 10-31-2005, 08:51 AM

Man, what happened to the imitation we used to know and love on HUSH. You seem permanently poisoned? So serious....

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you are stupid for typing back in chat.

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Really? Exactly what did I say that was stupid? If you want to be a robot that is up to you, I do not have a problem engaging people, especially when I am laughing so hard I need to try and focus again...

If by what I said I improved their play, or weakened my own position then you might have a point. But you don't have a point, all the TC's did was re-affirm their own ignorance while providing me with a lot of entertainment. I seriously doubt anything I said led them to believe I was less than the fish they saw me for.

Do try to return to the human race old boy...

oreogod · #10 10-31-2005, 08:53 AM

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I wouldn't consider baronzeus well-respected, more like a giant luckboxing fish who runs hot as [censored]. He also has a giant ego to fit his gigantic lucksack. His coaching thread was by far the most annoyingly useless thing he's ever made.

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I really think ppl got the idea of "respected poster" turned around here. Ive seen it in a few threads. This isnt supposed to be Railbird respect where Respect = how high u play....respected should be like one of the old timers or someone who just consistently hits the ball out of the park on his posts (schneids, EL D, daryn...another I can think of that is newer than them is Jason_t...etc).

Not to rag on Baron...hes a cool guy (with a highly inflated ego, sure...but hes 19 so whatever. Althought hearing about his lucksacking-ness gets very annoying if u ever take a trip to IRC)...but imo being a respected poster is a big thing.

EDIT: most of barons posts are solid but he's still leanring like a lot of us...now give him 6months to a year or so, he could definitly be up there.