bleh AK

DaveB · #1 10-23-2005, 04:33 AM

Both MP3 and CO are in their first orbit. Bad?

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises, MP3 calls, CO calls, 3 folds.

Flop: (7.33 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (5.16 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets, CO calls, Hero calls.

River: (8.16 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks...

Final Pot: 8.16 BB

mute · #2 10-23-2005, 06:18 AM

Since your hand is good enough to call with, I would fire again on the turn. Reads would help of course, but these guys will peel the flop with just about anything in cluding backdoor str8 draws and Ahigh. There are also some legitimate draws out there.

I think you should bet the river as well. That rivercard is about as scary as they come, and a pair of queens or tens is gonna check here most of the time, I think.

ArturiusX · #3 10-23-2005, 07:00 AM

I like it.

#4 10-23-2005, 08:39 AM

Bet the river. Mp3 likely just has some kind of pair, and decided to bet the turn because you checked.

SeaEagle · #5 10-23-2005, 10:31 AM

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Since your hand is good enough to call with, I would fire again on the turn.

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Do you really think it's good enough to call with? If there's a bet and a fold, hero's getting just over 6-1, and needs about 7 outs to call. If there's a bet and a call, as in the hand, hero needs 6 outs.

The K outs are heavily tainted and club outs are slightly tainted. I think it's optimistic to give hero 7 discounted outs.

Another argument against betting the turn is that hero has very little fold equity. The 9 only improves hands that might have been drawing thin on the flop, so anybody with a flopped pair, or 2 clubs, or a J is seeing the river.

I'd have check/called the turn (check/folded if CO had folded) and check/folded the river UI.

As played, I'd bet the river. Checking allows the opponents to check their weak hands and bet their strong ones.

chesspain · #6 10-23-2005, 11:27 AM

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Since your hand is good enough to call with, I would fire again on the turn.

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Ugh

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I think you should bet the river as well. That rivercard is about as scary as they come, and a pair of queens or tens is gonna check here most of the time, I think.

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Although with this I agree.

Redd · #7 10-23-2005, 01:36 PM

I like it up until the river. I agree with everyone who says this is too scary of a card to risk a check-through, especially since a thinking player will realize that everything you had odds to call the river with just came in.

DaveB · #8 10-23-2005, 01:37 PM

I agree that I should have bet the river. I gave myself 7 outs on the turn (J or A) but that's optimistic. Check folding the turn felt too weak though. The river was checked through, both players had T's + str8 draw. Definitely left money on the table here.