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Old 10-16-2005, 03:26 PM
joop joop is offline
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Default i lose 2 x 26BB pots in 5 minutes

Comments on all streets welcome... I feel sick [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, MP calls.

Flop: (6.33 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, MP calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.16 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP caps</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: (18.16 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, MP calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 27.16 BB


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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: (12.33 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, Button calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (12.16 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, CO calls, Button calls.

River: (20.16 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button folds, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 26.16 BB
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Old 10-16-2005, 03:39 PM
ggbman ggbman is offline
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Default Re: i lose 2 x 26BB pots in 5 minutes

In hand 2, you should not bet the river, and given you did, you should fold to the raise.
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Old 10-16-2005, 03:41 PM
baronzeus baronzeus is offline
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In hand 2, you should not bet the river, and given you did, you should fold to the raise.

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exactly my thoughts. that cant be a good card considering two cold calls on the turn.
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Old 10-16-2005, 03:41 PM
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Default Re: i lose 2 x 26BB pots in 5 minutes

Okay, thanks. Everything else is okay? I feel like I got owned in that first hand.
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Old 10-16-2005, 03:49 PM
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Okay, thanks. Everything else is okay? I feel like I got owned in that first hand.

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I could possibly fold to the cap on the turn in the first hand, but there's a big chance they're on a straight or trips. Folding to the river 3-bet would be ok I think.
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Old 10-16-2005, 03:52 PM
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Okay, cheers.

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Old 10-16-2005, 04:10 PM
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Okay, thanks. Everything else is okay? I feel like I got owned in that first hand.

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I could possibly fold to the cap on the turn in the first hand, but there's a big chance they're on a straight or trips. Folding to the river 3-bet would be ok I think.

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At 3/6?? I certainly don't think I would even think about folding this.
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Old 10-16-2005, 04:45 PM
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Default Re: i lose 2 x 26BB pots in 5 minutes

In both these hands there are lineups I would fold against and lineups I would never ever fold against. Got nothing to do with 3/6 or 20/40 or whatever. Got all to do with who u are playing.

The only obvious misstake is betting river in hand 2. The other decisions we need reads to comment on. Why are a large field of players all unknown to you?
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Old 10-16-2005, 05:02 PM
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Okay, thanks. Everything else is okay? I feel like I got owned in that first hand.

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I could possibly fold to the cap on the turn in the first hand, but there's a big chance they're on a straight or trips. Folding to the river 3-bet would be ok I think.

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At 3/6?? I certainly don't think I would even think about folding this.

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Hero's hand is awfully transparent, and readless I assume they're the standard 35/10 ape-man who can figure out what's going on once they get past all the pretty colors. BB got capped on the turn, and then he 3-bet the river. Seems like a pretty good fold.
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Old 10-16-2005, 05:16 PM
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Okay, thanks. Everything else is okay? I feel like I got owned in that first hand.

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I could possibly fold to the cap on the turn in the first hand, but there's a big chance they're on a straight or trips. Folding to the river 3-bet would be ok I think.

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At 3/6?? I certainly don't think I would even think about folding this.

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Hero's hand is awfully transparent, and readless I assume they're the standard 35/10 ape-man who can figure out what's going on once they get past all the pretty colors. BB got capped on the turn, and then he 3-bet the river. Seems like a pretty good fold.

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There are a lot of donkeys in this game. Hero is getting 25:1! You don't think there is a 1 in 25 chances he is playing something like A4 like this or 5c6c or some other odd holding? I would expect to lose to 22 most of the time, but I don't think it's the only possibility.
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