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Old 10-16-2005, 12:37 PM
newhizzle newhizzle is offline
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Default AJs, every street questionable

villain is 25/10/2.5

was planning on c/ring flop, whats the best line to take when PFR is right in between the other guys?

anyone bet turn?

hows the river call?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (8.40 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, CO checks.

Turn: (4.20 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, CO folds, Hero calls, UTG+1 folds.

River: (6.20 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.20 BB.
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Old 10-16-2005, 12:42 PM
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Default Re: AJs, every street questionable

I don't like the river call. Villain's check on the flop after raising PF with those stats make me suspicious.

I wouldn't bet the turn 4 way on this board.
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Old 10-16-2005, 12:57 PM
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Default Re: AJs, every street questionable

I think the best way to get the most money in the pot is to bet the flop and hope for three callers or perhaps even a raise from MP2.
If MP2 raises and CO calls I would reraise and hope that UTG+1 comes along too. If MP2 raises and CO folds I would just call the raise to increase the likelyhood that UTG+2 calls.

I like checking the turn an hoping for a free card. The probability that everyone would fold to a bet on this fairly draw heavy board is very slim, right?

I fold the river unimproved. I don't really see any hand that MP2 can have here that we beat. If Mp2 is capable of laying down unimproved overcards to a raise on the river that could perhaps be an option, but I would fold it.
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Old 10-16-2005, 01:14 PM
TemetNosce TemetNosce is offline
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Default Re: AJs, every street questionable

I'd fold the river. There are just too many hands MP2 has that beat us here.

Looks like he had overcards like AK/AQ that missed the flop or maybe 99/88/77. His overcards may have been in Clubs, so that could be why he bet the turn, or he's betting his 99/88/77.
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Old 10-16-2005, 02:45 PM
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Default Re: AJs, every street questionable

I bet the flop.
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Old 10-16-2005, 04:11 PM
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Default Re: AJs, every street questionable

Bet the flop, either fold the river or, if you're really feeling squirrely, c/r the turn and lead the river. But I wouldn't recommend that, because the Villain's stats are so aggressive that his flop check is highly suspicious. I wouldn't be surprised if he flopped top set. If not, he probably has 7s, 8s, or 9s.

How many hands are these stats for?
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Old 10-16-2005, 04:24 PM
hobbsmann hobbsmann is offline
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Default Re: AJs, every street questionable

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I think this is going to depend on the other players a lot. If the other guys are kind of weak it might be better to check the flop with the intention of raising if CO calls and the intention of calling if CO folds.
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Old 10-16-2005, 05:43 PM
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Default Re: AJs, every street questionable

Betting the turn is not an option against 3 players. And you shouldn't be calling the river, what are you beating here? I can see arguments for both betting and sometimes c/r the flop (c/r depending on the action). If the pf raiser was last to act, it would be an easy flop bet.

Actually I think a flop bet is the best choice here too. You get money in the pot with a very nice drawing hand and mp2 might actually raise for a free card, which would be a good thing.
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Old 10-16-2005, 06:05 PM
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Default Re: AJs, every street questionable

I like every street except the river. I think that call is terrible. I hardly see anything you beat here.
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