44 in SB

witeknite · #1 10-10-2005, 08:43 PM

New to table and no stats on anyone.

44 in the SB.
Btn opens.
I 3-bet.
BB calls.

Flop is 527r

I bet and get called twice.

Turn is k putting 2 clubs on the board.

I bet, BB calls, and Btn folds.

River is 6 no flush.

I check intending to call.

Standard?

WiteKnite

PS, PP 3/6 6-max

cartman · #2 10-10-2005, 08:50 PM

I only 3-bet with 44 here against the most chronic blind thieves. I would probably check-fold the river.

Cartman

Spicymoose · #3 10-10-2005, 09:33 PM

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Standard?

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Yes. I think if you wanted you could fold the 44 though, and be even more inclined to against a really tight raiser or stealer. Overall I think 3-betting is fine though.

flawless_victory · #4 10-10-2005, 09:35 PM

standard until river... i think you should bet/fold here... if he has you beat youre just gonna get value bet... in ducing a bluff is nice, but getting calls from Ahigh is nicer.

Spicymoose · #5 10-10-2005, 09:39 PM

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standard until river... i think you should bet/fold here... if he has you beat youre just gonna get value bet... in ducing a bluff is nice, but getting calls from Ahigh is nicer.

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What about the benefits of a passive opponent not value betting? I think you save quite a bit when this happens.

partygirluk · #6 10-10-2005, 09:55 PM

Is there any merir to check/folding the turn here. I would be tempted to do that v. 2 opponents.

Lmn55d · #7 10-10-2005, 10:08 PM

Yea I think this makes it close. A lot of opponents would check through a 5, 7, or even like 88/99 etc. I think bet/fold has a higher EV than check/call for sure, but I think check/fold might have a higher EV than bet/fold for this reason. If I didn't feel comfortable folding I would bet. Flawless, what do you think about my assumption that a normal player won't value bet these hands very often?