5/10 turn minraise

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6 handed. Donk min raises UTG. Unkown on his left ($1700, I cover) calls. I call in the BB w/ 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

Flop ($60) is 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. I lead for $60. Donk folds, unknown thinks it over and calls.

Turn ($180) is the 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. I bet $125, he min raises.

I call.

River ($430) is the Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]


I...

[Rick Nebiolo]

I'll try one.

I think the turn is the time to gamble and reraise.

Given your turn call can checking and calling a pot or less size bet be that bad? You seem to be either way ahead or less likely way behind. Some (many?) of the hands you might be ahead of won't call your bet but might bet as a continuation play. If you bet and are raised you have a tough decision because you won't always be behind.

Just my very humble opinion.

~ Rick

[Lucky]

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6 handed. Donk min raises UTG. Unkown on his left ($1700, I cover) calls. I call in the BB w/ 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

Flop ($60) is 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. I lead for $60. Donk folds, unknown thinks it over and calls.

Turn ($180) is the 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. I bet $125, he min raises.

I call.

River ($430) is the Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]


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Check, call a moderate bet, looks like your beaten.

[AZK]

check

Without any prior knowledge, I'm check-calling on the river here. There is a good chance Villain has an overpair that includes [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
As for how you played it - I would lead smaller or bigger on the turn. Smaller ($80-$95) is what I would lean towards, because then the turn minraise allows you to more easily reraise to $350 - $400 and make a decision based on his reaction. Similarly, a bigger bet will make his minraise more significant in the hand that it likely indicates.

[flawless_victory]

i like a semibluff push on the turn.
i like checkfolding the river.

[outdrwn]

Fold preflop?? Seems like the best thing.

The semi-bluff all in on the turn is retarded because if he has the flush, your gonna lose all your money, regardless if you make the straight or not. If he has the flush you still have some equity, but he's not going to fold it, and your going to be way behind. Check folding the river, is also retarded, because your hand is very strong and just because some unk minraises doesn't mean he has the flush. Check-calling or making a 1/4 sized block/value bet seems better in my opinion, if he raises, then you can fold. He may just call with something like an overpair, and if he raises, well, you've got some more information and can base your decision on that.
What happened in the actual hand?

[Big_Jim]

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Fold preflop??

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No.

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If he has the flush you still have some equity, but he's not going to fold it

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Very possible for hero to have a boat here. I think that at the 5/10 level, you will definitely find some people who can fold a flush here, especially if it isn't the NF. Also... hero has 10 outs v. a flush. Whether you can make them fold often enough... I don't know. Although, I do agree that if we get called, our straight outs are no good.

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Check-calling or making a 1/4 sized block/value bet seems better in my opinion

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I hate the block bet here, mayyyybe an overpair calls you, but I doubt it. Not to mention a weak ass bet like that is likely to get raised with air. I think check/call and check/fold are the only decent lines. With check/fold being very read dependant.

Overall, I think that I like hero's line better than the re-raise on the turn, vs. an unknown, but I definitely see the merit of it with a good read.

[AdamBragar]

I'd heavily consider folding the turn. You can't possibly beat too many hands here.

Check the river, hope it's checked down. You're screwed on the river if he bets.

[Big_Jim]

You don't think hero's boat outs are clean?