switched from 55's to 400NL. questoin about 6max

NiR · #1 10-02-2005, 02:56 AM

hello, i started 400nl today and just wanted to know what the real good players here do with pocket pairs 66-TT. im assuming they raise with JJ-AA. what pockets below JJ do you guys raise with in the 400nl. or is limping it better? i do 6max only.

Big_Jim · #2 10-02-2005, 03:35 AM

In most games in the 400, I raise with all PPs from all positions in an unopened pot.

PugX · #3 10-02-2005, 03:53 AM

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In most games in the 400, I raise with all PPs from all positions in an unopened pot.

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Jim, are you talking 6max now or is 'most' also refering to full ring? (I know op asked about 6max)

Reason I ask is that I work on raising more preflop.

//Pug

Big_Jim · #4 10-02-2005, 04:02 AM

6-max only.

In full ring, I will usually just limp PPs < 88, or fold them in EP.

Wu36 · #5 10-02-2005, 04:09 AM

Same, although I muck 22/33 in EP about half the time.

PugX · #6 10-02-2005, 04:25 AM

I have started testing with rasing lower pairs when it's folded to me and its not so many people left that I want to fold.

Problem whe seeing flop is that I seldom feel so very strong. I have a a rather bad hand with few outs.

//Pug

Big_Jim · #7 10-02-2005, 04:36 AM

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Problem whe seeing flop is that I seldom feel so very strong. I have a a rather bad hand with few outs.

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This is true, but it's amazing how often a continuation bet takes it down.

#8 10-02-2005, 05:09 AM

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Problem whe seeing flop is that I seldom feel so very strong. I have a a rather bad hand with few outs.

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This is true, but it's amazing how often a continuation bet takes it down.

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I'm just learning, and a little confused. How does this reasoning for raising with PP have anything to do with the fact that you have a PP? Seems to apply to any 2. I mean, 72o often flops a bad hand with few outs, and if you raise with it you'll often take the pot down with a continuation bet. And if you've got a low PP, if the flop gets any piece of your opponent you're typically behind. So if your CB gets called, you also might as well have any 2.

mason55 · #9 10-02-2005, 05:19 AM

A PP has much better outs than 72o

PugX · #10 10-02-2005, 05:26 AM

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I'm just learning, and a little confused. How does this reasoning for raising with PP have anything to do with the fact that you have a PP? Seems to apply to any 2. I mean, 72o often flops a bad hand with few outs, and if you raise with it you'll often take the pot down with a continuation bet. And if you've got a low PP, if the flop gets any piece of your opponent you're typically behind. So if your CB gets called, you also might as well have any 2.

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Nah.. Your PP have a lot more value.

1) You have some chances to get really good hand. You have seen four communitycards if they call your contnuationbet.

2) You actually have a pair. It's more often you are ahead of a calling AK-hand after the flop has shown then you are behind.

//Pug