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Old 09-29-2005, 05:58 AM
Riposte Riposte is offline
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Default Bluffs all over the place

Yesterday I played 800 hands of $50NL 6max to clear a bonus at a prima skin, and lost 3 buy-ins while at it. Luckily, the hand histories contain everyone's actual hand, even if you fold.

So I'm going over some hands where I lost a decent amount of money, namely the High Card and One Pair hands. It turns out, these people are bluffing like mad. With absolutely nothing. Should I feel bad for folding to these bluffs. I mean these blufs were all over the place!

For example, I raise AK, miss the flop, checked through to and then led into on the turn (total bluff on a third club falling), should I feel bad for folding to these kinds of things?

Is it possible that it's my bad play that leads to the bluffs? I would like to post a few examples, but the converter won't accept these hand histories from Bet365poker.



EDIT: Typing up some more eye-friendly example hands.
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Old 09-29-2005, 06:01 AM
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Default Re: Bluffs all over the place

They show EVERYONE's original holdings????????
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Old 09-29-2005, 06:25 AM
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Default 2 examples

Well oops, this might just be a whine post... sorry. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] Here are a couple examples, already posted the 2nd hand for review. Maybe it's not as prevalent as I originally thought.


HAND 1


** Come with Me [Hold 'em] (0.25|0.50 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money



- jeffan sitting in seat 1 with $11.05

- Hg2003 sitting in seat 2 with $41.05

- Rusty78 sitting in seat 3 with $57.48

- Totzzo sitting in seat 4 with $80.05 [Dealer]

- keano24 sitting in seat 5 with $49.00

- Hero sitting in seat 6 with $49.50



keano24 posted the small blind - $0.25

Hero posted the big blind - $0.50



** Dealing card to jwliv: A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

jeffan folded

Hg2003 called - $0.50

Rusty78 called - $0.50

Totzzo folded

keano24 folded

Hero bet - $3.50 (this included my BB, did I raise too much? I typed in $3)

Hg2003 folded

Rusty78 called - $3.50



** Dealing the flop: J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (pot $7.75)

Hero checked

Rusty78 checked



** Dealing the turn: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (pot $7.75)

Hero checked

Rusty78 bet - $4.50

jwliv folded

Rusty78 mucks: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Rusty78 wins $11.90 from the main pot


HAND 2



** Dover [Hold 'em] (0.25|0.50 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money



- sc_wee sitting in seat 1 with $32.50 [Dealer]

- jeffan sitting in seat 2 with $27.25

- lajeman sitting in seat 3 with $30.34

- Neddi sitting in seat 4 with $14.65

- tvab sitting in seat 5 with $40.45

- Hero sitting in seat 6 with $69.80



jeffan posted the small blind - $0.25

lajeman posted the big blind - $0.50



** Dealing card to jwliv: 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Neddi folded

tvab raised - $1.00

Hero called - $1.00


sc_wee folded

jeffan folded

lajeman called - $1.00



** Dealing the flop: 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (pot $3.25)

lajeman checked

tvab bet - $3.00

Hero raised - $9.00


lajeman folded

tvab called - $9.00



** Dealing the turn: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (pot $21.25)

tvab bet - $10.00

Hero called - $10.00




** Dealing the river: 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (pot $41.25)

tvab bet - $10.00

Hero folded

tvab mucks: A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

tvab wins $49.20 from the main pot
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Old 09-29-2005, 07:43 AM
Morrek Morrek is offline
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Default Re: 2 examples

Yes I've noticed too alot of people tend to buy pots with just overcards on turn/river on prima 50NL. Actually so much that I started calling with a missed AK on river and winning quite a few pots(more than I thought before, atleast).
On hand one why didn't you just continuation bet on the flop? Could've gotten it right there. Hand2 you're folding for 10$ bet into 40$pot (10 in 50 for you) which isn't what I'd do unless i was sure this guy NEVER bluffed, but as I mentioned it does happen more than you think at this level. You only have to be right once in five times or whatever it is for this to be profitable play.
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