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Old 09-28-2005, 05:52 PM
jjacky jjacky is offline
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Default poll: KK in the SB against a raise and a reraise

i had an argument about how to handle this preflop situation with two very good players. probably i am just flat wrong but i would like to see what you guys do.

i sat down last round. both involved players appear to be somewhat agressive, but only over about 10 hands. i mean... no reads [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Hero ($199)
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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises to $7</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $21</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero ???
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Old 09-28-2005, 06:08 PM
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Default Re: poll: KK in the SB against a raise and a reraise

what hands are either of them gonna play back at you pf other than AA, i think you have to put in a 3rd bet and fold to a raise, its too bad u have no stats on them.
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Old 09-28-2005, 06:12 PM
jjacky jjacky is offline
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Default Re: poll: KK in the SB against a raise and a reraise

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what hands are either of them gonna play back at you pf other than AA, i think you have to put in a 3rd bet and fold to a raise, its too bad u have no stats on them.

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sounds good. on the other hand, do you really wanna fold KK if he pushes, getting 2:1 on your money? i can't do that (we need only a chance of about 30% that he doesn't have AA).
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Old 09-28-2005, 07:24 PM
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Default Re: poll: KK in the SB against a raise and a reraise

The money is going in so put it there.
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Old 09-28-2005, 07:27 PM
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Default Re: poll: KK in the SB against a raise and a reraise

i agree
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Old 09-28-2005, 07:31 PM
amoeba amoeba is offline
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Default Re: poll: KK in the SB against a raise and a reraise

I hate this line. you are goign to put in 1/3 of yoru stack then fold to a push?

are we certain AA will 4 bet? are we certain AA is the only hand that'll 4 bet?

I think this is a call.
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Old 09-28-2005, 07:35 PM
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Default Re: poll: KK in the SB against a raise and a reraise

What are the plans for postflop play assuming you just call and there is no Ace on the flop?
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Old 09-28-2005, 07:43 PM
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Default Re: poll: KK in the SB against a raise and a reraise

I'm looking to get my stack in vs worse overpair.

if I smoothcall the raise preflop, basically I've completely put the fact that he might have AA in the back of my mind and is just thinking of maximizing against worse hands.
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Old 09-28-2005, 08:30 PM
Malachii Malachii is offline
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Default Re: poll: KK in the SB against a raise and a reraise

Stick it in.

Edit: Just noticed how deep the stacks are. Smooth call is okay.
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Old 09-28-2005, 08:32 PM
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Default Re: poll: KK in the SB against a raise and a reraise

I agree, call and take the flop.
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