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Old 09-28-2005, 08:59 AM
Marc H Marc H is offline
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Default An early pair of jacks

Comments on all streets welcomed.

(Sorry, I would've converted the hand but bisonbison's not working just now)

NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee
Level:2 Blinds(15/30)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 8: Padres6 ( $775 )
Seat 9: CMR84 ( $615 )
Seat 5: idiosavant ( $790 )
Seat 4: Hero ( $725 )
Seat 6: SheriffenDK ( $752 )
Seat 3: Villain ( $815 )
Seat 7: skinnerbf ( $885 )
Seat 2: cowboy506 ( $760 )
Seat 1: DKpker ( $975 )
Seat 10: trotk ( $908 )
Trny:16058421 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Js Jh ]
Villain raises [60].
Hero calls [60].
idiosavant folds.
skinnerbf: that was our first showdown
SheriffenDK folds.
skinnerbf folds.
Padres6 folds.
CMR84 folds.
trotk folds.
DKpker folds.
cowboy506 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9s, Ts, 8s ]
Villain bets [55].
Hero raises [205].
Villain calls [150].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9c ]
Villain checks.
Hero bets [230].
Villain calls [230].
** Dealing River ** [ Ks ]
Villain is all-In.
Hero is all-In.

Results below, in white:
<font color="white">Villain shows [ As, 5h ] a flush, ace high.
Hero shows [ Js, Jh ] a flush, king high.
Villain wins 90 chips from side pot #1 with a flush, ace high with ace kicker.
Villain wins 1495 chips from the main pot with a flush, ace high with ace kicker.
</font>
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Old 09-28-2005, 09:11 AM
wiggs73 wiggs73 is offline
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Default Re: An early pair of jacks

On the turn, I'd either check behind or push. If I check, then I'm check / folding any river as well. The donk bet / call a large raise from villain on the flop looks like either a made flush or (less likely) a set, so I'd probably shut down at this point. However, if you have a read or otherwise think you're ahead on the turn, then push. The 230 bet serves no real purpose at this point and you're giving too good of odds on such a draw-heavy board.
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Old 09-28-2005, 09:13 AM
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Default Re: An early pair of jacks

I like the raise on the flop. It gets him scared which he shows on turn too. The bet on turn when he checks is somewhat low. 230 into a pot of 530? I would push it here since he showed weakness and just try to take the pot right here and not letting a fourth spade card come for free or giving away the river card for cheap and allowing him to hit a overpair. Besides with your bet on 230 you will have to call the river no matter what.

Good raise on flop.
Push the turn.

Just my comments.
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Old 09-28-2005, 09:26 AM
Marc H Marc H is offline
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Default Re: An early pair of jacks

Yeah, the thought that I should have pushed the turn hit me about half a second after I didn't do it. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 09-28-2005, 11:28 AM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default Re: An early pair of jacks

push the turn, but call the river. not much left.
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Old 09-29-2005, 04:06 AM
ebaudry ebaudry is offline
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Default Re: An early pair of jacks

"push the turn, but call the river. not much left. "

ditto. I might have tossed in a small reraise PF in order to be more likely headsup and in position for the rest of the hand. I guess I feel that in the $20 games, a 2BB raise once called at a full table, often gets more callers. This is lame for JJ since you want to be headsup and certainly don't want to be in the middle. After your reraise, if he goes all-in you have a very good idea where you stand [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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