JTs caught in the middle

DrewOnTilt · #1 09-25-2005, 06:39 PM

Ultra-loose table again. UTG+1 is a loose limp-reraiser who seems to LRR about 1 hand out of 3. UTG+1 is a unknown.

I need a better line here. I feel like a calling station playing the way I did.

Preflop: standard, I think.

Flop: Should I have raised this hand here? The pot is huge and my hand is weak. Did I get a bit gunshy?

Turn: Somebody just hit their ace, and I am likely drawing thin or dead. Foldy McFolderson at this point.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, 1 fold, CO calls, Button calls, SB raises, 1 fold, UTG+1 3-bets, Hero calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: (16 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (10.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero calls, CO raises, Button folds, SB folds, UTG+1 calls, Hero folds.

River: (15.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, CO bets, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 17.50 BB

Smokey98 · #2 09-25-2005, 06:44 PM

Why not raise the flop? You have TPLK but still TP.

Pog0 · #3 09-25-2005, 07:28 PM

15:1 to call again on the turn, you may have up to 5 outs. With 3 effective outs, it's a call.

Evan · #4 09-25-2005, 07:31 PM

This pot is DEFINITELY big enough to warrent a flop raise.

KDawgCometh · #5 09-25-2005, 07:51 PM

you're big mistake was not raising the flop. THis is a big pot and you need to do your best to protect your hand. Lots of bad cards can fall on the turn and you want to give yourself as much of a chance to win this hand.

I think you need to see the river with the odds you're getting when its back to you, and you should've just chopped off the action after your turn fold

BurnsvilleCardClub · #6 09-25-2005, 08:10 PM

Fold pre-flop. Not much value in this hand with a loose maniac as well as an unknown behind you. Save yourself 1.5BB and wait for a better hand with a better position than MP to make a stand.