Value betting and trapping with TPTK

Spaded · #1 09-24-2005, 05:04 PM

Just sat down, but my reads were as such: "Loose" was short stacked and went all-in once preflop, playing like he's in a tourney. "Villain" is loose and weak, raising one BB preflop on half his hands.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

BB ($27.20)
UTG :#A500AF(Villain)/ ($24.60)
MP ($47.25)
Hero ($24.65)
Button ($24.20)
SB :#A500AF(Loose)/ ($8.50)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB :#A500AF(Loose)/ posts a blind of $0.10.
UTG :#A500AF(Villain)/ raises to $0.5, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50, SB :#A500AF(Loose)/ (poster) calls $0.40, BB calls $0.25.
I didn't want to scare them away with a raise, and sometimes you just have to call a raise with AKo for disguise.

Flop: ($2.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
Loose bets $1, BB folds, Villain raises to $2, Hero raises to $4, Button folds, Loose calls $3, Villain calls $2.

Turn: ($14.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)

Loose checks, Villain bets $4, Hero raises to $10, Loose folds, Villain calls $6.
I read the villain as having AX, possibly two pair, but he wasn't betting hard enough for that.

River: ($34.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Villain checks, Hero calls $10.15 (All-In), Villain calls $10.10 (All-In).
If he has a flush he's got me, but if he doesn't, he's practically pot committed. I've got the A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], so a flush draw was unlikely.

Final Pot: $54.75

Results in white below: 
Villain has Ah 9h (one pair, aces).
Hero has As Kc (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins $54.74.

yvesaint · #2 09-24-2005, 05:18 PM

Raise pre-flop.
Raise more on the flop.
Raise more on the turn.
Follow these steps, you should have no money left on the river.

Loose/weak players means you should be betting/raising more at every possible moment. I'd hate to have 3-4 other people tag a long to that pre-flop mini-raise and be betting into me on any A or K-high flop - you don't know if your TPTK is any good. "Trapping" doesn't work v. loose/weak players. "Value betting" means you should be betting as much as they can call - both pre-flop and post-flop. You're losing value by raising so small on the flop/turn. The more you raise on the flop, the bigger the bets are on the turn. The more you raise on the turn, the easier it is to get it in on the river without it seeming like an overbet.

orange · #3 09-24-2005, 05:22 PM

I don't like play on all streets.

Re-raise PF. Disguising AKo is not good, and the hand rarely plays well in multi-way flops. Against tricky, decent opponents, this play may be ok with deeper stacks. But not now. Reraising PF changes the hand dramatically.

Re-raise the flop, something meaningful too. Mini raising gives them tremendous odds to draw out on you, and I think popping it up to $7ish is better.

If villan leads the turn once again, I would push.

Spaded · #4 09-24-2005, 05:26 PM

Thanks for the advice [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]