oops - now what?

gomberg · #1 09-24-2005, 12:44 PM

Just messing around last night - and have the laggy image to boot. The 2nd raiser probably sees my raise as a draw or a bluff - so is this a "close my eyes and push" spot? He could be raising light here, but could also have a set or the nut flush draw...

No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (8 handed) converter

BB ($330)
UTG ($601.05)
UTG+1 ($274)
Hero ($1184)
MP2 ($1118)
CO ($1000.50)
Button ($1083.50)
SB ($678.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG+1 posts a blind of $10.
1 fold, UTG+1 (poster) raises to $30, Hero calls $30, MP2 calls $30, 2 folds, SB calls $25, 1 fold.

Flop: ($130) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 bets $30, Hero raises to $130, MP2 raises to $500, SB folds, UTG+1 folds, Hero...

Gregg777 · #2 09-24-2005, 02:25 PM

Do you feel lucky? I fold...

arod15 · #3 09-24-2005, 02:58 PM

fold bad pot odds here. and he has commited himself so if you push he will most likely call

gomberg · #4 09-24-2005, 03:07 PM

This is my hand range for him...

set, Ax flush draw, any pair 8 or above, lower flush draw - remember I have an ultra laggy image. Note he'll call w/ most of those as well if I push. Still not sure on this one...

AZK · #5 09-24-2005, 04:00 PM

miiiiiiiiiizuck

gomberg · #6 09-24-2005, 04:40 PM

Well, I made a very marginal call and got the 2nd best I could expect here when he flipped 89 no club. I was actually the favorite. The best would have been a lower flush draw w/out a pair. I guess 99 and TT would have been fine for him to have as well. A set and I'm 3-1 against and a higher flush draw I'm drawing slim too. I like calling too much (or pushing)... GAMBOOOOOOL

BobboFitos · #7 09-24-2005, 07:32 PM

wow, to think someone could overplay their hand like that

i dunno gom, even though it turned out (SORTOF) for the best, it's play for stack w/ little shared equity from others vs what is best for your case small edge (which is great when we have an edge + shared equity!) but all too often it's neg EV. (if he can have 89 here, he could have J8; or pair plus same flush, killing some outs; or be in the lead w/ ace high of our suit, whatever..)

Lucky · #8 09-25-2005, 05:39 AM

Fold. You have no f/e. You may not be drawing to nuts.