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Old 09-18-2005, 07:55 PM
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Default how was my play stars 5+.5

Hey, i'm new to the sng scene, how was my line here?



PokerStars Game #2607760897: Tournament #12736019, Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2005/09/18 - 19:49:03 (ET)
Table '12736019 1' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: ancient brit (1460 in chips)
Seat 2: TreborPugly (1790 in chips)
Seat 3: Erb_Got_Cha (1450 in chips)
Seat 4: TheAZPlumber (2080 in chips)
Seat 5: nofier715 (1160 in chips)
Seat 6: stussified (1460 in chips)
Seat 7: aintipurdy (1480 in chips)
Seat 8: SteveB334 (1120 in chips)
Seat 9: poker_gunz (1500 in chips)
nofier715: posts small blind 10
stussified: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to stussified [5d 3d]
aintipurdy: folds
SteveB334: folds
poker_gunz: folds
ancient brit: raises 60 to 80
TreborPugly: folds
Erb_Got_Cha: calls 80
TheAZPlumber: calls 80
nofier715: folds
stussified: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [3s 5h Ac]
stussified: checks
ancient brit: bets 220
Erb_Got_Cha: folds
TheAZPlumber: folds
stussified: raises 280 to 500
ancient brit: raises 880 to 1380 and is all-in
stussified: calls 880 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [3s 5h Ac] [Ah]
*** RIVER *** [3s 5h Ac Ah] [3c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
stussified: shows [5d 3d] (a full house, Threes full of Aces)
ancient brit: shows [Kh Ad] (a full house, Aces full of Threes)
ancient brit collected 3090 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3090 | Rake 0
Board [3s 5h Ac Ah 3c]
Seat 1: ancient brit showed [Kh Ad] and won (3090) with a full house, Aces full of Threes
Seat 2: TreborPugly folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Erb_Got_Cha folded on the Flop
Seat 4: TheAZPlumber (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: nofier715 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: stussified (big blind) showed [5d 3d] and lost with a full house, Threes full of Aces
Seat 7: aintipurdy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: SteveB334 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: poker_gunz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Old 09-18-2005, 09:42 PM
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Default Re: how was my play stars 5+.5

Fold that hand preflop. No reason to play aginst a raise and callers.
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Old 09-18-2005, 10:53 PM
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Default Re: how was my play stars 5+.5

Tough luck after the flop, but I don't think you should be playing the hand in the first place.
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Old 09-18-2005, 11:49 PM
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Default Re: how was my play stars 5+.5

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Fold that hand preflop. No reason to play aginst a raise and callers.

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Yup.
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Old 09-19-2005, 12:47 AM
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Tough luck after the flop, but I don't think you should be playing the hand in the first place.

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While I do believe you should minimize the number of low EV hands you get invovled with, the pot odds in this situation are at least 6.5:1, so there is a schooling effect in play that would make a call justified with any two cards.

Knowing that such a call is technically accurate, it's really your decision if you want to get invovled. This is all table feel. As you can see this is a case where it paid off. You flopped two pair and got it all in against top pair. He had 5 natural outs - ~21%, plus like 4% for the chance of the board hitting a pair.

So you are 3 to 1 to win this hand when you got all your money in. The fact that he drew out afterwards is irrelevant...

Though I always notice low two pair has a remarkable way of failing to hold up!!!
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Old 09-19-2005, 09:18 AM
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While I do believe you should minimize the number of low EV hands you get invovled with, the pot odds in this situation are at least 6.5:1, so there is a schooling effect in play that would make a call justified with any two cards.

[/ QUOTE ]Hero put 60 in a pot that was at 270. Isn't that 4.5:1?
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Old 09-19-2005, 09:28 AM
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Default Re: how was my play stars 5+.5

If you call every time there is a raise and callers, you are going to bleed many precious chips. This isn't a cash game, so pot odds aren't all you need to think about.
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Old 09-19-2005, 09:35 AM
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Default Re: how was my play stars 5+.5

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Fold preflop.
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Old 09-19-2005, 10:17 AM
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Default Re: how was my play stars 5+.5

Its $5.50 Level 1. You call a 4BB raise out of position (and first to act preflop) with two low ass diamonds.

Not a smart move. You may have had 3:1 odds, but it still wasn't a great call. You committed way to much on what looks like maybe the 5-6th hand of the tournament.
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