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Old 09-17-2005, 09:17 PM
pleyya pleyya is offline
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Default pumping flush draw heads up

Is this standard for you all or did i push too hard ?
I kinda feel like betting the turn since i might have some fold equity after showing so much strenght, but heads up ppl tend to call alot.....Opponent is standard semi-loose aggressive. He is aware of the fact that i am stealing.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, SB calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks ?

River: (7.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB
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Old 09-17-2005, 09:22 PM
newhizzle newhizzle is offline
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Default Re: pumping flush draw heads up

i think you played it right, bet the turn if you think hell fold, but i doubt it with the action on the flop, i like the flop action, not for value, but for the free card that you got, if it went bet-raise-call, id probly see if i can take it on the turn, but i think that taking the free card is the best line here
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Old 09-17-2005, 09:31 PM
pleyya pleyya is offline
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Default Re: pumping flush draw heads up

yeah he did show a lot of strength, thats why i doubted he would fold on the turn. If he just called my raise i think a turn bet would be better.
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Old 09-17-2005, 09:31 PM
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Default Re: pumping flush draw heads up

Bet turn, SB can have anything here
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Old 09-17-2005, 11:47 PM
shark6 shark6 is offline
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Default Re: pumping flush draw heads up

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He is aware of the fact that i am stealing.


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I assume you mean he's seen you consistantly raise in steal situations. Given that, I'm not sure you really have much fold equity against a guy that suspects you of stealing, in a large pot, heads up. As a consequence, I wouldn't cap the flop to try re-re-steal the pot. Rather, I'd just call the flop bet and get in a raise if you improve to a flush or top pair.
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Old 09-18-2005, 12:04 AM
Kailia Marie Kailia Marie is offline
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Default Re: pumping flush draw heads up

Hi pleyya,

If you know he thinks your stealing there is a lot to be said about capping preflop, not just with this hand, but with any hand you may be opening with on the button. The extra small bet you invest preflop may save you (or win you) extra bets after the flop.

As far as this hand is concerned, the problem with checking behind on this turn is that your forfeit any of your bluffing equity on the river while you enhance his. Capping for a free card is fun, but the extra small bet you might save may not be worth it when:

a) it actually costs you more money when he leads into you on the turn anyways.
b) prevents you from picking up an extra bet when you do hit your flush when he check calls you.
c) allows him to bluff the river profitably when your hand looks like an obvious draw.

Against some players you should be betting this turn, while against others you should have just called the 3-bet on the flop and see the next card(s). Capping and then checking in this spot probably isn't as correct as you would think (if at all).

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Old 09-18-2005, 02:10 AM
W. Deranged W. Deranged is offline
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Default Re: pumping flush draw heads up

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Bet turn, SB can have anything here

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How often do you think hero is actually ahead here???

If we're capping here I think a primary reason is to take a free river. Always betting the turn with draws is a mistake, particularly if we can be pretty confident our opponent will almost always call (or check-raise).
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Old 09-18-2005, 05:13 AM
DrewOnTilt DrewOnTilt is offline
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Default Re: pumping flush draw heads up

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Bet turn, SB can have anything here

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Ummm, not quite...SB did 3-bet both preflop and on the flop.
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Old 09-18-2005, 12:38 PM
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Default Re: pumping flush draw heads up

i put another bet in preflop [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

the rest is fine. betting that turn is spewing.
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