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#1
09-16-2005, 06:49 AM
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Good or bad spot for a flop check/raise
Bet or c/r?
Two of the players to my left are aggressive (no maniacs), and two are passive. Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. MP3 posts a blind of $2. UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 (poster) checks, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, SB calls. Flop: (12 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font> SB checks, Hero?.. Final Pot: 6 BB 
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#4
09-16-2005, 07:29 AM
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Re: Good or bad spot for a flop check/raise
Bet. Checking would be a pot building move.
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#5
09-16-2005, 07:52 AM
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Re: Good or bad spot for a flop check/raise
Yes, if the pot came from my left, but if someone bet from late position checkraising would be superior to betting considering a bet would give them 1:13, right? I don't want hands that can make profitable calls (about 3 outs) when i can avoid it. The problem is when the bet comes from my left, then i wish i had been betting instead.
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#6
09-17-2005, 01:08 PM
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Re: Good or bad spot for a flop check/raise
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I don't want hands that can make profitable calls (about 3 outs) when i can avoid it. [/ QUOTE ] And we don't want them to get a free card. Besides we might get raised giving them even worse odds. [ QUOTE ] Yes, if the pot came from my left, but if someone bet from late position checkraising would be superior to betting considering a bet would give them 1:13, right? [/ QUOTE ] Since we don't know the position of the aggressive and passive players in this pot it's hard to know. But if the aggressive are in late position the check/raise would look better. But still, I'm aggressive and there are tons of hands I will be checking for a freecard on this flop. In general it's better to bet out as the pfr when you hit the flop, the chance that somebody else does it is reduced.
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#7
09-17-2005, 01:59 PM
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Re: Good or bad spot for a flop check/raise
i am the minority here but i think this is a perfect spot for a check raise. your first concern here should be protecting your hand. a bet in no way accomplishes this as any 4 outter can profitably call.
your hand in vulnerable and you deffinantly need to knock players out. i would check then raise a bet from late position. also check raising gives you control of the hand with this many players to act after you, i think it is very unlikely that this will get checked through (i think any LP overcards would probably bet here) and you said that there were some aggressive players are yet to act protect your hand, c/r the flop.
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#8
09-18-2005, 06:07 PM
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Re: Good or bad spot for a flop check/raise
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#10
09-18-2005, 06:18 PM
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Re: Good or bad spot for a flop check/raise
Why do you think someone will bet if you check? Who will that be? What happens if the person to your left bets? You need to play this straightforward and hope the person holding QJ raises so we can 3 bet.
There is no way to protect your hand reliably, therefore bet for value.
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