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Old 09-15-2005, 06:30 AM
Akimka Akimka is offline
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Default Can I play QQ this way?

SB (c/raiser) is 16/2/0.6 (for 36 hands)
UTG+2 (coldcaller) is unknown but have very short stack (3BB)

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Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (9 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, Hero folds.
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Old 09-15-2005, 06:36 AM
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Default Re: Can I play QQ this way?

No, you can't play QQ this way
SB can have a flush draw, worse pocket pair, or a 4. See a showdown.
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Old 09-15-2005, 06:41 AM
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Default Re: Can I play QQ this way?

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No, you can't play QQ this way
SB can have a flush draw, worse pocket pair, or a 4. See a showdown.

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I am weak. I will kill myself.
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Old 09-15-2005, 07:09 AM
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Default Re: Can I play QQ this way?

This is bad fold. You give up too easily. 3-bet flop. If you get capped and SB leads turn, you can fold.
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Old 09-15-2005, 07:20 AM
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Default Re: Can I play QQ this way?

This may sound cliche, but to be a winner you've got to cast away your fears. Don't be results oriented too.
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Old 09-15-2005, 07:26 AM
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Default Re: Can I play QQ this way?

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This may sound cliche, but to be a winner you've got to cast away your fears. Don't be results oriented too.

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It's hard to be not result oriented when you get c/raised with 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Well. That hand was worth a lesson about weakness.

I'll try to calm out.
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Old 09-15-2005, 07:34 AM
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Default Re: Can I play QQ this way?

I play 88 exactly the same way the villian did.
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Old 09-15-2005, 08:16 AM
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Default Re: Can I play QQ this way?

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I play 88 exactly the same way the villian did.

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This is right. There are a lot of hands that are played this way, often to get people out.
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Old 09-15-2005, 08:57 AM
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Default Re: Can I play QQ this way?

sure, if you don't like money.

look, you're making this fold because an tight/uber-passive villain made this play... but your read is after 36 hands. in other words: you don't REALLY have a solid enough read to try to make folds like this. plus, it will butcher your table image.

get to showdown.
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Old 09-15-2005, 10:20 AM
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Default Re: Can I play QQ this way?

Ok, I have a question. Because of the fact that I would have folded this hand on the turn unimporved. Should the fact that he c/r from his position be of and substantial concern, because that is what I'm thinking on hand like this. I have read a lot of your replys and would appreciate some comment on this.
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