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09-14-2005, 09:25 PM
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Why is 1/2 like WAY harder than .50/1?
I just feel like I'm getting man-handled by the 1/2 players. It seems whenever I make a play at a pot somebody was slowplaying a monster hand, and whenever I fold second pair the other 2 people in the pot were bluffing with overcards.
Anybody else get this feeling when moving up to 1/2, and does it go away? 
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#2
09-14-2005, 09:35 PM
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Re: Why is 1/2 like WAY harder than .50/1?
1/2 sucks ass. I play 1/2 for awhile, lose some, then win it back by playing 1/2 6max instead. I just keep putting off the part where I go back to the full game.
I think I'm starting to get a better grasp of it. Here are my current thoughts: 1) Stealing attempts can happen more, so on steals, you have to steal a bit more than .5/1 and also protect your blind from steals more. BUT only a little bit more. If you accidentally let your steal attempt get up to 45% like I did, you get owned. 2) Depending on when you play, and your table selection abilities, any PP and any Axs from any position is often a losing play. Try your best to seek out tables where these plays are still ok, but don't count on it. You must be disciplined enough to fold these hands in early position if the game requires. 3) If players like to check-raise the turn (HINT: They do.), take more free cards instead of the old style of the continued agression. You're in the best shape if you know your players. Some people will always fold after you bet the turn, some will C/R every time they have a hand, and some will always C/R, period.
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09-14-2005, 09:36 PM
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Re: Why is 1/2 like WAY harder than .50/1?
you're probably sitting at the wrong tables. there are some very difficult 1/2 tables, but then again there are plenty of easy 1/2 tables as well. you just have to look for them.
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#6
09-14-2005, 09:39 PM
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Re: Why is 1/2 like WAY harder than .50/1?
Why have there been a rash of "1/2 is so much harder than .5/1" posts lately? I don't get it. I just cleared a bonus playing 1/2 full the other day on Party (which by the way is the BEST limit for bonus clearance hands down IMO), and they are still soft. Some tables are tighter than others, but all are very beatable.
The only thing I can tell you is that you should post some hands that make you feel icky. 1/2 does have a different feel overall, and you do have to make some adjustments, but there is no reason you should not beat this limit. The players are tighter in general, but still bad.
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#7
09-14-2005, 09:44 PM
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Re: Why is 1/2 like WAY harder than .50/1?
Hey Greg, I feel the very same way as Fryguy, even after countless posts like yours saying how it's not bad. I think the reason is because 1/2 was the first time things changed. Previously, the game just gets a bit tighter as you move up limits. I started at .05/.1, then .1/.2, then .25/.5, then .5/1 was the easiest jump of all.
1/2 was the first level where there really is a difference in style. The part that bothers me the most is that I can tell by watching that these players are all horrible, but after 6k hands, I'm still losing almost 2bb/100.
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#8
09-14-2005, 10:26 PM
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Re: Why is 1/2 like WAY harder than .50/1?
[ QUOTE ]
Hey Greg, I feel the very same way as Fryguy, even after countless posts like yours saying how it's not bad. I think the reason is because 1/2 was the first time things changed. Previously, the game just gets a bit tighter as you move up limits. I started at .05/.1, then .1/.2, then .25/.5, then .5/1 was the easiest jump of all. 1/2 was the first level where there really is a difference in style. The part that bothers me the most is that I can tell by watching that these players are all horrible, but after 6k hands, I'm still losing almost 2bb/100. [/ QUOTE ] I am just curious, since I have never played lower than 1/2. What is this difference? To me a table with 35% VP$IP is a loose table and this is likely why I never understand these posts either.
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#9
09-15-2005, 01:04 AM
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Re: Why is 1/2 like WAY harder than .50/1?
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] Hey Greg, I feel the very same way as Fryguy, even after countless posts like yours saying how it's not bad. I think the reason is because 1/2 was the first time things changed. Previously, the game just gets a bit tighter as you move up limits. I started at .05/.1, then .1/.2, then .25/.5, then .5/1 was the easiest jump of all. 1/2 was the first level where there really is a difference in style. The part that bothers me the most is that I can tell by watching that these players are all horrible, but after 6k hands, I'm still losing almost 2bb/100. [/ QUOTE ] I am just curious, since I have never played lower than 1/2. What is this difference? To me a table with 35% VP$IP is a loose table and this is likely why I never understand these posts either. [/ QUOTE ] I was sitting at two tables with 27% vpip today. One was good, one was rotten. Table vpip doesn't mean a whole lot.
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#10
09-15-2005, 01:28 AM
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Re: Why is 1/2 like WAY harder than .50/1?
I agree, I never do table-select at this limit, maybe it will start to matter at 2/4, but I honestly don't think it make a whole lot of difference at 1/2.
1/2 does frustruate me every now and then, mainly because the swing is bigger dollar-wise, but the game is really not that hard to beat. You can still make a decent profit just playing ABC poker. You can also practise on almost every aspects of your game. For those who beat .5/1 but yet to find your rhythm in 1/2, I'd suggest you to go ahead to clear a multipoker reload bonus, maybe the 500$ one, that gives you a 10K-hand target so that you will log in enough hands at this limit to see if you are actually good here. The bonus makes your try almost risk-free so you can stop worrying about the money.
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