Better options on this line? (Long)

SoBeDude · #1 09-12-2005, 08:13 PM

I'm looking for input on if there is a better way to play from this first hand on. If you read on you'll see why.

First here is the hand that cripples me, but this isn't what is interesting. This hand sets up what happens next.

Paradise Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (10 handed) converter
(there is a 25 Ante)

MP1 (t10170)
MP2 (t19012)
MP3 (t3150)
CO (t14613)
Button (t7780)
SB (t11556)
Hero (t27880)
UTG (t29640)
UTG+1 (t8115)
UTG+2 (t9865)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of t200.
3 folds, MP1 calls t400, 4 folds, SB (poster) completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t1200) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets t400, Hero raises to t2400, MP1 calls t2400, SB folds.

Turn: (t6400) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t7000, MP1 calls t7000.
(notice this call leaves her with exactly 345 chips)

River: (t20400) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t400, MP1 calls t345.

Final Pot: t21145

Oh she has AQ, with the Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

So that hand takes me from a great spot to middle stack. I play another couple rounds and steal some blinds and scoop a few spots. I make most of the lost chips back. then I get moved to another table. I get little in the way of hands and just get blinded down some. I do call a shortstack push when in the BB getting farovable odds and lose. So I find myself slipping and running well below average, with an M below 5.

So then I take this gamble (blunder):
Paradise Poker (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of 1000.
4 folds, MP2 raises 12,000 (of his 16K stack), 4 folds, Hero raises (All-In) , MP calls.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)

MP turns over KK and scoops. I misread his 6x BB raise as a small mid pair, so I figured I'd take a coinflip here to try to get a chip stack. oops.

The next hand its folded to me in the SB and I shove my pathetic last 1,805 into the pot, BB calls the remaining 805. My 82o beats his 46o and I'm still on the respirator.

Next hand folded to me on the button, I push yet again with 45s. No callers and I scoop another. Up to 10K now (blinds 1k/2k).

Blinds now 1.5k/3K. Next hand is K2o, still they fold to me, still I push, still they let me have it. 14.2K now.

Next hand is A5o, folded to me, I push, no callers. 20K in chips.

I fold the next 7 hands through my blinds and I'm back in LP on the button and I find myselt staring at KK. Yet against its folded to me and I push my 14.5K in. I assume here with all my pushing, someone is going to look me up. SB had a stack of 7,815 before posting, and BB had 36K.

Well they both fold. poop.

NOW THE VERY NEXT HAND I find QQ. J O Y!

I find myself yet again with no action in front. So I push my 20K and no one calls. argh.

So now I fold 3 hands (KT, QT, and 78) to action in front of me, and I next find myself in EP with ACES!

Well I've been doing a LOT of pushing and there is a whole table to act after me, so I POOSH yet again.

Would you believe no one called me yet again!!??

I have a measly 33K and an M of about 8. But I'm alive and kicking.

My question is this:
given my short stack, anyone do some limping with those big pairs in the hope of getting some action? I really thought that someone would have looked me up with all my pushing.

thoughts and comments appreciated.

-Scott

gobboboy · #2 09-12-2005, 08:39 PM

I hate limping. Everyone knows it means you have a good pair. Make standard raises all around. They can't put you on a hand in EP and in LP they'll think you're stealing. Pushing with big pairs is something I only do if I am sure they are calling.

SoBeDude · #3 09-12-2005, 08:50 PM

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I hate limping. Everyone knows it means you have a good pair. Make standard raises all around. They can't put you on a hand in EP and in LP they'll think you're stealing. Pushing with big pairs is something I only do if I am sure they are calling.

[/ QUOTE ]

Did you look at my stack size compared to the blinds?

tom441lbk · #4 09-12-2005, 08:58 PM

don't overhype yourself,it wasn't that long....but anyway

the first hand, i'm prob letting them see a cheap turn, and pushing on the turn betting round

and with the AA QQ KK, in lp you might get some action by making standard raises(donkeys) with your stack size, and argument can be made for limping, but you might be asking for a bad beat, but i think the possibility of letting a dangerous hand see the flop(78s or so) doesn't outweigh the extra chips you might be gaining with other limpers, and maybe a possible steal. With all the pushing i would think someone would've looked you up, i probably would've played everythign the same, with maybe limping AA but prob not

well i think i got all my thoughts out their

SoBeDude · #5 09-12-2005, 11:26 PM

hoping for more feedback.

Thanks