Both of these hands felt weak. 88 and AQ-- interesting flops.

[odawg09090]

I wasn't sure if I was ahead so I ended up giving too many free cards here. I didn't have a read on these guys. In the 8s hand, I figured for sure the flop aggressor had an overpair and I was drawing to the straight. In the second hand at 10/20, I was planning on a turn Check raise. I figured these guys are real aggressive and would definitely bet the turn. I thought he had a pair with a diamond like 8s8d or something which gives me a stranglehold on the hand. Ah well. Thoughts?



Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP caps</font>, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP caps</font>, SB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (12 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks.

River: (12 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, MP folds.

Final Pot: 14 BB



Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP caps</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP checks.

River: (7.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB

Hand 2 looks fine.

Hand 1 I don't like the flop 3-bet. You're clearly behind and given you're vulnerable to spades or pairing the board, I don't see this raise as for value.

The turn is just wierd overall (your check is good obviously, you want to see a free card). I'm guessing the SB tried for a C/R and missed.

I'm curious what others think on the river. Given the pot size I think you have to call, but given the action I can't figure out what you beat. What would the SB raise with on the flop (attempting to drive you out of the hand) that you beat?

[odawg09090]

I still don't know about hand 1. Hand 1, another possible line might be to cap flop, lead turn with top pair and the nut flush draw.

Hand 2, I felt the rivercall was a must because of that pot size and the turn check around. That flop 3 bet might have been bad seeing as how I was behind, however my logic was to drive out the last guy if he had overcards to my 8s.