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Old 09-06-2005, 11:57 AM
David100 David100 is offline
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Default $200+15 Hand

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter

MP3 (t985)
CO (t1420)
Button (t1280)
Hero (t970)
BB (t690)
UTG (t1995)
UTG+1 (t810)
MP1 (t890)
MP2 (t960)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, CO calls t30, Button calls t30, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t120) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t100</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t250</font>, BB folds, CO folds, Button calls t150.

Turn: (t620) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] hero does?

(normally i do fold pre flop, probably an error getting involved. but now i am here..?)

David
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Old 09-06-2005, 12:04 PM
lastchance lastchance is offline
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Default Re: $200+15 Hand

Hero represents 88-TT and semi-bluff pushes, I think.

Though the above line might suck.

I think flop is somewhat questionable. Checking has to be good, and I think I fold. But at a $215, a lot of people are stealing on that flop. Your raise doesn't represent much.

A check here, representing trip 7's, could be exceedingly scary for your opponent. You might get a free card.

I'm going with check.

I forgot to Button on a hand. A flush/straight draw would (or should) 3-bet all-in or fold, I think. 88-TT/A7 would 3-bet all-in.

I think he's got a good hand/monster he's trying to get value from. I check. Though if you put him on a draw, it's a clear turn push.
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Old 09-06-2005, 12:04 PM
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Default Re: $200+15 Hand

You're check raising with three people left to act behind you because...? I think I could go on, but this reason alone makes this a bad play in my opinion. Plus your raise is too small to actually be protecting a hand and looks bluffy. What to do next is totally read dependent. You don't exactly have him on a tight range though.
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Old 09-06-2005, 12:08 PM
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Default Re: $200+15 Hand

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You're check raising with three people left to act behind you because...?

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The others acting behind are very likely to fold.
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Old 09-06-2005, 12:13 PM
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Default Re: $200+15 Hand

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You're check raising with three people left to act behind you because...?

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The others acting behind are very likely to fold.

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Yeah sure they're not that likely to have a hand but there are three of them. BB could be going for a c/r, CO likely has not much, and the button could have a hand. If you don't have any reads you're going to be so lost against the button. My next gripe with this hand is the size of the raise. I think it's a big problem.
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Old 09-06-2005, 12:15 PM
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Default Re: $200+15 Hand

what should the raise be if do to this?
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Old 09-06-2005, 12:26 PM
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is this raise necessary?
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Old 09-06-2005, 12:31 PM
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Default Re: $200+15 Hand

Wow, you put yourself in a really unfavorable position here.

Here's the problem: Your flop action screams weakness, quite likely a flush draw. On the up side, a hand like 78 is pretty weak on the flop, so maybe you can sell that.

You have to check the turn I think. A push looks suspicious, and a bleeding bet bleeds chips from you. A check though is consistent with a 7. So what I would do if you air lifted me into this spot is check the turn, probably fold to a bet, and fire a 300ish bet at any river if the turn is checked through. The flop was really butchered here IMO. Completing preflop is standard, but with bottom pair, out of position and an awkward stack (meaning call takes 10% of your stack a c/r takes 25-50% of your stack, enough to really hurt but not enough to push) you have to let this one go on the flop.
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Old 09-06-2005, 12:33 PM
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This seems like one of these hands where, if it was posted as a 22, 11, or a 6, everyone would tell the OP that he's a donk.

I guess cuz this is a 215, nobody will say that.

You may well be a very good player (I obviously don't know) but the whole hand seems very FPS to me. I'd check and pray that I get a free card. It sure sucks playing hands OOP, doesn't it?
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Old 09-06-2005, 12:43 PM
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Yeah, but in the $215's, a play like this is much more warranted, because Button is betting more, and the people between you are folding more.

It can be FPSish here, but I think this is definitely one way you can play this hand.
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