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Old 09-03-2005, 11:47 PM
ALL1N ALL1N is offline
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Default Send me to the asylum?

BB is TAG, SB is reasonable, thinking LAG.

Party Poker 20/40 Hold'em (5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, TAG checks, MP checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (2 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">TAG raises</font>, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>

Yes, I'm betting any river HU. I'm undecided about when the river blanks 3-way.

Am I craaazzzyyy?
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Old 09-03-2005, 11:54 PM
golferbrent golferbrent is offline
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Default Re: Send me to the asylum?

[ QUOTE ]
BB is TAG, SB is reasonable, thinking LAG.

Party Poker 20/40 Hold'em (5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, TAG checks, MP checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (2 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">TAG raises</font>, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>

Yes, I'm betting any river HU. I'm undecided about when the river blanks 3-way.

Am I craaazzzyyy?

[/ QUOTE ]

You could be... you know you are 3 betting a known TAG on the turn with double gutter and spade draw. Question is how strong do you think that the TAG flopped here, or is he making a play at the pot. I don't mind the play if it is an occasional play, certainly not optimal in the long term.

I certainly think that you are going to be heads up on the end b/c I can't see how the better can call 2 cold here. If he does... then you are in trouble unless you complete. By my estimation you have 9-12 clean outs depending on your opponents holding. All in all, its not a terrible play every once in awhile play. Also, this is the kind of play you can make against a TAG b/c that is the type of player that you can get to lay down a better hand on the end occasionally.

Hope things went well for you on the river!! LOL!
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Old 09-04-2005, 03:27 AM
Subfallen Subfallen is offline
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Default Re: Send me to the asylum?

So you're representing exactly 9Q? I think it looks too much like a semi-bluff designed to eliminate SB because there's no way you have two pair. (Why wouldn't you have bet JT or KT with position on the flop?)
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Old 09-04-2005, 08:00 AM
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Default Re: Send me to the asylum?

wooooooooooooah
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Old 09-04-2005, 09:30 AM
vmacosta vmacosta is offline
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Default Re: Send me to the asylum?

This is a very small pot...fold and don't think twice. That said, I kinda like the play as an advertisemen if you do it once in a blue moon in your regular game.
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Old 09-04-2005, 12:24 PM
CanKid CanKid is offline
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Default Re: Send me to the asylum?

I do stuff like this too often live when I get bored.
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Old 09-04-2005, 05:34 PM
Klepton Klepton is offline
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Default Re: Send me to the asylum?

it looks like you haven't played a hand in maybe 10 minutes, and you just got antsy.

that being said, i've done this a couple times in my life, it usually doesn't end well

but i still like doing it.
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Old 09-05-2005, 07:55 AM
ALL1N ALL1N is offline
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Default Re: Send me to the asylum?

I didn't do this because I was bored. I fully believe it's a winning play.

What hands does everyone put the TAG on, and which of these will he seriously consider going to showdown with?
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