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Old 09-01-2005, 01:30 AM
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Default 3-handed DS hand: fold QQ preflop?

First Table of $15 Double Shootout to WCOOP $1000 TS

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (3 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero (t5295)
Button (t3940)
SB (t4265)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t200</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t650</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1700</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t4315</font>.

I'm 99% sure that SB is a 2+2er.

Can Hero fold this?

Thanks in advance,
Che
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Old 09-01-2005, 01:34 AM
LethalRose LethalRose is offline
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Default Re: 3-handed DS hand: fold QQ preflop?

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3 - handed, I'am chipleader, I have the 3rd best hand in holdem, both villians raising into me, I have QQ. Pray to a higher god for this situation and call while dancin a jig. Its 3 handed, Did I mention i have QQ?


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FYP

You could flat call instead of reraising and push any flop without a k or a.
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Old 09-01-2005, 01:37 AM
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Default Re: 3-handed DS hand: fold QQ preflop?

the fact that villain is 2+2 makes it more likely that he understands that hand values change as the game gets shorter, and so he would likely come back over the top all-in w/ some hands you beat/dominate.

but regardless i can't see folding this given the price you're getting on your call and the fact that you have a monster.
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Old 09-01-2005, 01:43 AM
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Default Re: 3-handed DS hand: fold QQ preflop?

Agreed that calling the 650 is probably best, but I don't think reraising is THAT bad as SB is pricing in button for a 3 way pot.

And I honestly don't see the importance of SB being a 2+2er.

Even donks know how to use the intraweb.
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Old 09-01-2005, 01:46 AM
LethalRose LethalRose is offline
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Default Re: 3-handed DS hand: fold QQ preflop?

yea, I dont put much value when playing against a 2+2 unless i know they are a good player, most 2+2ers arent.
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Old 09-01-2005, 01:46 AM
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Default Re: 3-handed DS hand: fold QQ preflop?

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And I honestly don't see the importance of SB being a 2+2er.

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I'm not sure how important it is, but it definitely merits some thought... the average 2+2er is certaintly a better poker player than average 'non' 2+2er.
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Old 09-01-2005, 01:49 AM
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I dont put much value when playing against a 2+2 unless i know they are a good player, most 2+2ers arent.

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I'm pretty sure this 2+2er is a solid player from the 1TT forum. Right or wrong, that was the info I was using.
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Old 09-01-2005, 01:56 AM
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Default Re: 3-handed DS hand: fold QQ preflop?

i could never ever ever never ever never ever see folding this.

i mean never.
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Old 09-01-2005, 01:56 AM
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Default Re: clarification about 2+2er

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I dont put much value when playing against a 2+2 unless i know they are a good player, most 2+2ers arent.

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I'm pretty sure this 2+2er is a solid player from the 1TT forum. Right or wrong, that was the info I was using.

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perhaps the 2+2er has put you on the re-resteal and decides to push.
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Old 09-01-2005, 02:07 AM
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Default Re: 3-handed DS hand: fold QQ preflop?

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i could never ever ever never ever never ever see folding this.

i mean never.

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