How should I play a good but vulnerable hand?

sudic · #1 08-30-2005, 10:40 PM

I always seem to screw up good but vulnerable hands.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG raises, 5 folds, Button calls, 1 fold, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, Button calls.

Should I've tried a check-raise on the flop?
Hmm!
Is he slow playing me?

Turn: (4.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG raises, Button folds, Hero calls.

Now I'm really confused.
I'm thinking maybe AQ but I'm fearing QQ.

River: (8.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.75 BB

Now after the river destroys my full house, as you can see I don't know what to do.
I think I'm beat.
After the turn I think he's going all the way to the river no matter what, but I would appriecate all suggestions on all rounds.

Thanks!

chief444 · #2 08-30-2005, 10:58 PM

A flop check/raise would probably be fine here.

3-bet the turn.

Pog0 · #3 08-30-2005, 11:03 PM

Considering your flop action, easy 3 bet on the turn, you're rarely (almost never) behind. Giving him a conservative hand range of 88+,AJs+,AQo+, your equity is 91.5%. You become a 2:1 dog after the river, but a call is justified.

Your opponent will bet out the flop 95% of the time so you can easily go for a check raise, or a check/call then turn check/raise.

#4 08-30-2005, 11:04 PM

Yeah can't be scared of monsters under the bed. 3-bet the turn.

ErrantNight · #5 08-30-2005, 11:10 PM

in answer to your questions:

should you have tried to c/r the flop? yes.

is he slow playing you? WHAT? the minute you can tell, definitively, from a simple call, when an opponent is slow playing you, after a single flop bet, is the day you can go on to rule the world. in the meantime... don't ask such questions. they're fruitless and unhelpful to you.

on the turn: for the love of god, 3-bet! your hand range is so ridiculously narrow i think you actually talk to the monsters that are under your bed. that thanks to a call and a raise you suspect your opponent to have hit QUADS is, um, bad. 3-bet and lead the river, even when it comes back capped.

as for the river. so you hit a full house and it may have been counterfeited by making someone else a better queens full... it happens, check/call is fine.

this type of post is essentially a bad beat post, and it's probably completely useless in helping your play improve on the whole. the number of hands you hit a full house on and lose will be an inconsequentially small proportion of your total hands you play.... in your lifetime.

move on, they suck. peace.

bryan4967 · #6 08-30-2005, 11:51 PM

i agree with errant night. best not to spend too much time contemplating this outlandish scenario. check/call, move on.

Paxosmotic · #7 08-30-2005, 11:56 PM

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i agree with errant night. best not to spend too much time contemplating this outlandish scenario. check/call, move on.

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That's why we joined a poker forum, to spend too much time analyzing this situation.

War on the turn, oh god war on the turn.