A hand with a strange ending (part 1)

[arkady]

What think thou of the river raise?

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.66 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (3.33 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: (3.33 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>....

Final Pot: 9.33 BB

[JoshuaD]

If your read is strong enough that you can fold to a 3-bet, I like it.

[bugstud]

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If your read is strong enough that you can fold to a 3-bet, I like it.

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EDIT - missed OESD completing

yeah, I guess folding to 3 bets is ok

[Victor]

i think calling is better here. if he is bluffing or missed a cr on the turn, raising is bad. so the question is how likely is it he has a pair here?

this a good raise against many players but if hes unkown i would rather call.

[arkady]

My thinking was this...unless he has the Q, I pretty much have the nuts, pending a 75. I was thinking he might be "value betting" any piece....

REgarding the 3-bet...he just might 3-bet a bluff too, lots of missed draws over there.

[DrGutshot]

river raise is good and a must IMO - call a 3bet against an unknown, fold w/read. It's a call of the 3bet without a read because the opponent knows you don't have a queen and could be pissed off/confused. The raise is a must because i promise you this guy will call with his weak pair because he auto puts you on AK, which is why he tried to value bet it.

-DrG

[arkady]

I am surprised/glad about your tone. See, I don't typically do these sort of super value raises, just shrug and call thinking "well a better hand 3-bets, worse hand folds" bla bla, rudimentary thinking. Now that I am 2 tabling I get to think about these things [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I suppose its routine for you [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Thats why u are better...

[Alobar]

I guess Im the only one who thinks its pointless. I dont think your tyical player pays off with a worse hand. Dont most pairs c/r this flop anyway?

I save this kind of stuff for when I actually have a read

im curious for the strange ending part tho....he 3 bets you with crap? or just calls with Q6?? Im on the edge of my seat tho! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Jeff W]

Raising the river is good. He'll pay off any pair. I'd call his 3-bet.

[baronzeus]

Arkady,

I'm just curious as to why you didnt bet the turn, with the flush draw and straight draw out there. This is something I do at 5/10 regularly.

Thoughts?