KK calls 3bet...

[vanHelsing]

Villain is 13/5, I don't know anything about his reraising standards, which means it doesn't happen too often.

MP is 23/10 and reasonable, so no reason for CO to wildly isolate him.

Fold PF, fold Flop or bring the money in at some point?

I hate calling 3 bets with KK, I am usually lost and I hated the Q...

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG ($528.75)
MP ($37)
CO ($247.05)
Hero ($337.70)
SB ($157)
BB ($43.20)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $7</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $37</font>, Hero calls $37, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP folds.

Flop: ($84) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets $50</font>, Hero calls $50.

Turn: ($184) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, Hero checks.

River: ($184) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO calls $160.05 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $344.05

[-Skeme-]

13/5 after how many hands? I might just fold this preflop against a guy with a VP$IP of 13, but I'm pretty cautious. Flop I don't think I call. What do you think he's betting here that you beat? AK[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] is pretty much it. Jacks doesn't reraise.

Why'd you check behind on the turn? If you called the flop, don't you think you have the best hand? Checking the turn is just giving him infinite odds to win a huge pot.

Easy fold on river.

[vanHelsing]

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13/5 after how many hands?

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200ish

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I might just fold this preflop against a guy with a VP$IP of 13, but I'm pretty cautious.

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I like the PF fold a lot now.

[Raven]

The usual three-betting hand from a player who raise 5 % of his hands before the flop are AA-KK-QQ-AK and maybe JJ. So the Q on the flop is a very bad card for you. I think that I would play it the same than you.

I think that he missed a check-raise on the turn.

On the river I really dont think he would try to bluff that big with AK or JJ.

[vanHelsing]

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The usual three-betting hand from a player who raise 5 % of his hands before the flop are AA-KK-QQ-AK and maybe JJ. So the Q on the flop is a very bad card for you. I think that I would play it the same than you.

I think that he missed a check-raise on the turn.

On the river I really dont think he would try to bluff that big with AK or JJ.

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Given the fact, that I don't want to see an A or a Q on board and even a low Flop doesn't mean my hand is good, wouldn't it be best to just let this hand go PF against a 13/5?

[ajmargarine]

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wouldn't it be best to just let this hand go PF against a 13/5?

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Or raise it up preflop.

[Raven]

You are still ahead against QQ, AK and JJ if he reraise it, and you will be able to play it good postflop if you know his range of hands. Remember that he will be scared of you also with your cold-call of 37 $ before the flop and will usually not try to make moves postflop. And the most important, you have position, so yes I play it.

[vanHelsing]

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wouldn't it be best to just let this hand go PF against a 13/5?

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Or raise it up preflop.

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This basicly means pushing
Isn't it always been said here, that this only will fold out lower pairs and give AA a free ride for my stack?

[That guy]

he put the short stack all-in... that is why he bet $37... I just don't think many people play AA like this...

you can't live life fearing AA... I wasn't there so I don't know but from what I see, I am assuming I have the best hand and I am raising pre-flop...

I would make it $100.

[yvesaint]

I'd probably call PF, but fold on that flop. There's nothing you're beating except AdKd. How aggressive is he post-flop? Would he bet out with just AK here?