Looks standard (LC if it is)

[baronzeus]

Looks standard? Villain is VIP 1000, very loose and passive. not sure what his donking standards are.

How's my flop raise/river check

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP :#A500AF(VIP1000)/ calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, MP :#A500AF(VIP1000)/ calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">VIP1000 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB folds, VIP1000 calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, VIP1000 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, VIP1000 calls.

River: (9 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
VIP1000 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 9 BB

Why don't you bet the river? I am trying to learn here but from my perspective the following is true:

1. You are thinking that your ahead at the flop and turn, enough that you are willing to bet out, on what would be most likely a 2 outer if your behind.

2. A safe card falls on the river, unless you put him on 99. If that is the case, given your description as being very loose and passive, I would not expect him to be 'tricky' and risk a check raise after hitting his set.

So why not bet out? Seems to me that there is a 50% chance he calls, 40% chance he folds, and 10% chance he raises....

Margon

[baronzeus]

Well, i figured drawing nearly dead to a 5 or a K, but if he has a busted flush draw, he'll fold. I didn't think I was ahead, I just wanted to get to showdown as cheaply as possible (this may be wrong).

Pretty much, that flop sucked for me, but it was worth 2BB to see a showdown in a 9BB pot, in case he was donking his draw.


Who else bets the river? Who just folds the flop?

[Buck_65]

I'm playing it exactly the same, since you lose to any K and villain isn't paying off with a busted diamond draw here. I guess you could be paid off by a hand like 66, but I don't think you're ahead of 55+% of the hands that are calling you.

If you think that you are behind, why bet the Turn and not take a free card? I know that you got one to fold from your bet, but you had a chance to see the river for one small bet with your raise. Then if it is unimproved you could throw it away on the river if you get a bet, or your could just check it down.

Just wondering....

Margon

[partygirluk]

You are giving a free card to fd. This is bad.

[baronzeus]

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You are giving a free card to fd. This is bad.

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So is my line OK?

[me454555]

Given your read on villain, I fold the flop. Against an unknown party 5/10er, I take your line or possibly check the turn call a bet on the river.

[MyssGuy]

Personally, I bet this river. You're ahead a good % of the time. Worse hands will fold, which I don't mind. Then they don't see how you play Q's with an over card. Let them think you have a K or 5. However, a raise on the river from a passive player, I would let this one go...

[baronzeus]

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Given your read on villain, I fold the flop.

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i thought about this, and almost did it, but thought it was way too weak.

isnt there a reasonable chance he has a flush draw?