I bet yet another whiff

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Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds.

Turn: (7 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>,

[jba]

this bet is standard for me. we are calling one anyways so it's better that we bet it.

You've only got overcards and a bazillion potential callers. I can't imagine this bet will take it down at the turn often enough to be +EV.

And I wouldn't count the wheel for much of a draw...

[mikeyKay]

if you bet the turn, you probably have to bet the river UI to make the turn bet mean anything. therefore, i take the (hopefully) free card on the turn, or call one bet to me.

-mike

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this bet is standard for me. we are calling one anyways so it's better that we bet it.

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Really? Maybe I'm weak, but on that board too many outs are tainted. Your aces are badly tainted as someone might fill their straight or flush, the wheel outs are badly tainted for the same reason.

Even we say each out if 50% good, that gives us 10 tainted outs (6 overcards, 4 treys), so 5 outs. That's 8:1 required odds. And I wouldn't count much for implied odds...as often as you'll get more bets on the river, you'll lose bets when it makes you a 2nd best hand.

You'll probably get the 8:1 on the turn to justify a call, but by leading the turn you're risking a raise behind which would be awful. I'd much rather check here and call one bet. Plus, if it's 2 bets back to you, you know to fold due poor odds.

A turn bet just doesn't seem to do any good here. You can't win outright as you won't drive anyone out with a made hand or a draw.

[me454555]

I check the flop to see what develops behind me. A flop bet doesn't accomplish much as someone prolly has some sort of pair and the pot is too big for me to fold out other overcards

[Terrabon98]

eer...unless you are playing at a tighter 5/10 table than i've ever played at, this bet isn't going to do much for you...i highl doubt all three opponents will fold, and you could definitely be facing a raise with very few clean outs, if any...

[mcvalenc]

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this bet is standard for me. we are calling one anyways so it's better that we bet it.

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This is a bad reason to bet the turn.

[mcvalenc]

I think your hand is best on the turn close to 0% of the time, I don't see any reason to bet there. The flop bet is better, but I still think checking the flop is the best move with 4 others, especially since your backdoor flush is only queen high.

[Anders_G]

i'd check the turn and call/fold depending on the action.