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Old 08-22-2005, 09:54 AM
naphand naphand is offline
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Default Not Optimum: Hand 2

Very different situation to Hand 1 (other post), same decision. More straightforward analysis this time IMO.

SB is a 30/20 LAG (only 50 odd hands) and certainly capable of a light steal, his AF is 7...

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Preflop: Naphand is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Naphand 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, Naphand calls.

Flop: (8 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Naphand raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Naphand caps</font>, SB calls.

Turn: (8 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Naphand bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Naphand [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

The PF cap must be something decent, and the flop cap has to beat any K (or be AK). He may be LAG but given the limited data I am probably looking at only a few hands that play this way. The Turn Ace does not slow him down, so we have precisely 4 possibilities IMO AA/KK/AK/99.

Cap it through? or do you slow down to a Turn cap or CR the River and call a 3-bet?
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Old 08-22-2005, 09:57 AM
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Default Re: Not Optimum: Hand 2

I reraise, he has a much wider range than that.

Edit: I cap the river.
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Old 08-22-2005, 11:42 AM
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Default Re: Not Optimum: Hand 2

Even in the very limited range you suggest he could be playing, you are ahead half the time, against 9 ways of AK vs 3 ways each to have 99, KK and AA.
With an AF of 7 (even after only 50 hands), he is likely to be playing a much wider range of cards which you all are ahead of. I would reraise.
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Old 08-22-2005, 11:46 AM
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Default Re: Not Optimum: Hand 2

I think you are limiting his hand range two much AQ AJ and hell any ace are in it especially in hearts and maybe even KQ or a flush draw. I am capping both turn and river in this heads up pissing match with a set every time.
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Old 08-22-2005, 12:13 PM
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Default Re: Not Optimum: Hand 2

He is very aggressive, so I am reraising him. In this situation his hand range is wide. While I think he has a good hand, you are good often enough that I think you should reraise turn. I
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Old 08-22-2005, 01:10 PM
Nick Royale Nick Royale is offline
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Default Re: Not Optimum: Hand 2

Just as everybody have suggested, your range of hands is way too narrow. If it would have been correct calling down is the only option. Since it's not I think the question is about raising a river bet or not. Without a "real" I would probably just call the river bet if he caps the turn.
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Old 08-22-2005, 01:14 PM
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Default Re: Not Optimum: Hand 2

Fcuking grow a pair and cap the river too.
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Old 08-22-2005, 01:32 PM
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Default Re: Not Optimum: Hand 2

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Fcuking grow a pair and cap the river too.

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God, sfer is my favorite poster on here. I hope to someday grow up to be like him. However, i'm slightly wussier. Im going 6 bets on turn +river.

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Old 08-22-2005, 01:35 PM
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Default Re: Not Optimum: Hand 2

I'd just like to note that the amount of ass-kissing of one Sfer is getting out of control. Yes, he's good and his posts are appreicated. No, he doesn't need to be reminded or confused with Piiop.
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Old 08-22-2005, 01:38 PM
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I'd just like to note that the amount of ass-kissing of one Sfer is getting out of control. Yes, he's good and his posts are appreicated. No, he doesn't need to be reminded or confused with Piiop.

[/ QUOTE ] Agreed. No offense to Sfer, I have plenty of respect for him and wish for guys like him to continue posting; but there seems to be a reply to each of his posts by some noob that makes me wanna throw up.
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