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Old 08-21-2005, 07:11 AM
Baseballer02 Baseballer02 is offline
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Default QQ, what the hell is going on?

MP3 is 60/15/1 after 90 hands or so.
MP2 is a 14/6/1.5 TAG after over 300 hands, basically playing your regular ABC poker game.
UTG1 is a complete moran.

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Preflop: Hero is with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] .
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (17 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, MP3 calls, Hero calls, SB folds, UTG+1 calls.

This flop doesn't really scare me at all, other than the flush draw. Highly likely that UTG+1 is trying to take down the big pot with the flop bet, I don't believe he has any hand here(I repear from earlier, this guy is a complete fool). I have hard time putting MP2 on a five here as tight as he is, I believe he's pumping up his ace high flush draw, I call planning to raise a non-spade turn.

Turn: (15.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Got the non-spade turn I was looking for, and I raise as planned.

River: (23.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

I have to bet for value here, right?

Final Pot: 27.50 BB
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Old 08-21-2005, 07:16 AM
hobbsmann hobbsmann is offline
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Default Re: QQ, what the hell is going on?

I like it. Good river bet.
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Old 08-21-2005, 08:22 AM
Nick C Nick C is offline
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Default Re: QQ, what the hell is going on?

Looks good.

One thing to consider is that it would be unfortunate if MP2 didn't bet the turn.

But he did.
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Old 08-21-2005, 08:27 AM
Jozepha Jozepha is offline
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Default Re: QQ, what the hell is going on?

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I like it. Good river bet.

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Old 08-21-2005, 12:44 PM
molawn2mo molawn2mo is offline
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Default Re: QQ, what the hell is going on?

standard... nice hand. you win this 99% of the time given your reads.

may end up with something like...

MP2 shows AJ
MP3 shows AK
UTG1 shows 77
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Old 08-21-2005, 01:09 PM
elindauer elindauer is offline
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Default Re: QQ, what the hell is going on?

Your post should have ended "Hero bets..." when you put in the information that everyone called and no one raised, you may taint the responses, as it makes it clear that at least in this hand, betting is correct.


Good luck.
Eric
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Old 08-21-2005, 01:11 PM
elindauer elindauer is offline
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Default Re: QQ, what the hell is going on?

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standard... nice hand. you win this 99% of the time given your reads.

may end up with something like...

MP2 shows AJ
MP3 shows AK
UTG1 shows 77

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You only put one person on a jack? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 08-21-2005, 01:12 PM
brazilio brazilio is offline
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Default Re: QQ, what the hell is going on?

This isn't the 2/4 at pokerroom I remember, it always like this? Coldcallers on the turn is so rad.
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Old 08-21-2005, 01:30 PM
mdob mdob is offline
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Default Re: QQ, what the hell is going on?

I agree with everyone saying the flop check-3 bet from MP2 looks like a flush draw, but doesn't the turn bet look a lot stronger? A turn bet's not for value and doesn't seem to increase his chance of winning much, so I'd expect, given the read, that he wouldn't bet here. I suppose he could be trying to disguise his hand (and it appears it would work against me [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]), but I think a made hand here is more likely.
That being said, I still like the turn raise as the other opponents here are giving you some overlay and he probably has A5 or AJ (KJs/QJs/TJs perhaps) given the read and action.
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